Last year we talked about this a lot, with Yao being easily neutralized by simply fronting him. We are seeing this happening again now that teams really tries everything they can to stop Landry. So the question remains, how can we solve the fronting defense? When Yao was denied the ball, a lot of people including me thought that it was for the most part because he is not agile enough to break free from his defender, but now we are seeing the same thing with Landry who is a much faster player than Yao. We really need to figure out a way to solve this problem. Right now we only have two offensive threats in Brooks and Landry. If Landry is denied the ball with just one defender on him, then we are in huge trouble creating any kind of reliable offense.
according to Sir Charles, you stay where you are, lock the defender with one arm and raise up the other hand to receive the high lob
Yao is too slow to overcome the fronting and not athletic enough to grab the lob. Landry is too short to get the Lob but he should know when to spin to stop the fronting. Personally, I just think Brooks doesn't know how to deliver the ball to our post players. Lowry is the one who usually does that.
I think penetration is the key since Landry will be able to box out his man and attempt a put back in case of a missed shot but the biggest problem is overcoming movement in the key like Yao and Shane used to do where Shane sets a pick and Yao is posting on the ohter side
This problem won't be solved until we have another quality option on the floor who can beat his man 1 on 1 and take the ball to the hole. The Rockets were playing 2 on 5 again tonight at the end of the game. If they are going to double team both Brooks and Landry or Brooks and Yao someone on the other side of the court has to make the scrambling defense pay. Butler, Iggy, a free agent...I don't care, but someone has to play that role. With Ariza hurt and Battier giving us nothing, we would have been better off with Budinger and Taylor in the game.
This[sorta]. Very hard to play 2-5, nonetheless 1-5. Very predictable of where you are going/what you are going to do. Doesn't really answer the question on how to beat the fronting, but still..
Fronting has more holes than swiss cheese, the thing about tonight was not only that landry was being double teamed on the front, was that so was brooks. RA did not put any scorers in, so basically, our offensive players were ineffective, and RA flip flopped the roles. He expected our offensive players to do spectacular defensive plays and vice versa. Or maybe he had a brainfart and didn't see cbud.
They were playing 1 on 5. Landry was eliminated. Simply won't cut it. As I said above, very predictable and too predictable. "Ok, well double Aaron, front Carl, I'll take the risk of Ariza or Battier or Hayes beating me/us"
It's was never Yao's fault that we were beaten by fronting defenses, he's not agile enough. Landry was getting fronted by smaller players that he was probably more athletic than. Just like it will take him time to learn how to maneuver around double teams, it will take him time to learn how to beat a front.
I agree on this. Brooks is a horrible passer. Last season, I did not see Battier had any problem passing the ball to Yao. But Brooks just could not make a simple good pass. He is a good scorer. But as a PG, he needs to improve a lot on passing.
Battier is currently the best at passing the ball to our post guys. Last year, it was McGrady and Alston who were good at doing that.
Shaq was the best I've seen getting the pass lob in his prime early 2000 era. He was also good at passing out of the double team.
I can't really get on board with this. Brooks had some amazing passes in tonight's game, especially in the paint. Also, he has some of the best handles I've seen. I won't deny that there's a problem with our half-court offense, but I don't think it stems from Brooks' passing ability.
Just bc a player can make nice passes does not mean he is great passer. Brooks lacks court vision and decision making ability in the half court to set up players consistently.
this really isnt a big deal right now....they really werent fronting carl, but just double teaming him, and even that wasnt very often. One issue is the lack of threats on the court. Everyone knows where the ball is going, so everyone stands still waiting and waiting for that guy to get open. Guys like chuck and dorsey don't fool anyone when they try to post up and act like they'll be receiving entry passes. Trevor/battier arent big enough threats to cancel out dorsey and chuck. The second issue is waste of time. They spend too much time setting high picks that aren't doing anything. It's not a scoring option. If anything it's bringing another guy out to push Aaron further back and waste even more time. Other times they act like they're going to dump it to hayes on the post, but we all know that's not happening. the passer is just waiting for brooks/ariza to get open, which wont happen, only for them to pull it out with the clock winding down and having to settle for a rushed 3 by Battriza. the solution is to mix up the lineups. Separate battriza by inserting lowry/bud/JT in the starting lineup or bench chuck and have landry and scola start. Problem with this is it's going to take away from the effectiveness of the bench, but let's remember it's not a permanent or the end all solution. That solution is adding those 40 mill we're missing back into the lineup and that won't be an option until next year.
Since landry has improved from last year,it'll be interestin 2 see yao and landry on the court At the same time,were gonna be a real threat in the post then IMO
I agree with you, the fact is, we had Scola on the bench for most of the fourth quarter and no one needed to guard Hayes or Battier, because their offensive moves are predictable and easily countered (either a three from the corner or a slow drive for a lay up). For some reason, Adelman is going away from playing Scola and Landry together, when both of them on the court will pull back on the double teams they are usually putting on Landry. Last season, when Yao was getting fronted or doubled teamed, they usually just gave the ball to Scola, either in the post or for a 15-20 ft shot. That is how we beat the Blazers, when they were negating Yao, I don't see why we don't use a similar thing here. Both Landry and Scola have decent mid range shots, but I barely saw them take any tonight or set themselves up to take them, when they were being hassled out of the paint. Heck, even Andersen would have been a decent option with range to put out there all things considered. On a related note, how funny is it that Dorsey was able to get the ball to Landry so easily tonight and yet was absent for most of the second half?
Dribble penetration,sealing,ball movement,over the top lobs.The problems with the rockets are they strike out in most of those categories this year and pretty much every year. Brools and lowry are the only 2 who can break a guy down off the bounce. Landry can seal his guy, but having shane,chuck,dorsey, and even ariza out there eliminates effectiveness. Landry cant consistently go get a lob over the top. So just as i sai weeks ago, if i were a team playing the rockets, i would front scola and landry everytime they enter the post. Neither can backdoor over the top you, they have 2 penetrators, and having teams close enough to the paint kinda takes away the lob. If they want to beat the front, get better off the dribble players.
