Yes I definitely agree it is on the line. If you look at the scenrios only two things can happen. Good or bad. Good meaning we win a championship within the next 5 years or bad we stay mediocre and is a constant playoff team with nothing to show for.
I look at it this way. He got a team with McGrady as a great if somewhat oft-injured player. In a few years, he's watched McGrady's trade value plummet (I would go on to argue that he's caused it to plummet, but we don't even need to go there) without doing anything to take what profit he could before that value hit rock bottom. So, now is the moment of truth, his chance to look like he knew what he was doing when he turned down trades for Hamilton/Billups (or whatever it was) or whomever else. Most people take it for too easy on Morey and want to cast all the blame at McGrady's feet. In this regard, I suppose his reputation is not on the line -- the public apparently will make what rationalizations are necessary to keep Morey golden and cast McGrady as the bad guy (for being injured).
lol Morey is going to do his best with Mac... it's not as easy as it looks. I'll be happy as long as he doesn't hurt the team. Just get some able bodies that can play in the system and let them expire. The goal for them should be to find potential backups on good contracts that are expiring. We don't need a star, we just need people to take minutes off the legs of the players we need when Yao is back.
His legacy on the line?? are u nuts?? he has been GM for only 3 years wat legacy r u talking bout ?? Plus it was T-mac decision he wanted to get traded bcuz he wanted more minutes.
Tmac was considered injury prone before Morey was even here. It is hard to get back the same value when trading away an all star. It is even harder when that player's trade value diminishes from the injury bug. I am sure offers were made but Morey felt his expiring contract was greater value. Morey > You
Got any facts to back up a wild theory like that one? Can you name one single instance where publicly stating a player is on the market has impaired a trade? Since RA wasn't going to play T-Mac with the current team, would Morey have been smarter to say he wasn't physically ready to play? Or just keep him on the bench, but let it be known that he WASN'T on the trade market? Yes, Morey's credibility and reputation are both on the line! All those years and years of work as an NBA GM go right down the drain! (What? He's been a GM for less than three years? Doesn't matter -- don't confuse me with facts!!) Morey will NEVER be able to rebound from this fiasco -- nobody would every hire such an obviously clueless oaf! Poor DM will be sacking groceries at Kroger soon. Heh. :grin: You mean like the ones you should've had before starting this idiotic thread?
While ordinarily I find myself agreeing with most anything you have to contribute - I disagree with this. Well, that is to say, I don't completely agree with it. Whether or not this move will ultimately become Morey's legacy depends an awful lot on how long he's the GM of the Rockets. He is a young man, and for all we know, he could end up being our GM for forty years. He may have plenty of opportunities to make bigger moves than this. As for the OP, I find his entire post absurd for the fact he mistakenly makes the assumption that McGrady had any value at all as a player. He doesn't. His value is all in his contract and our relationship with him can't hurt that.
well, mcgrady had some value as a player even when he was rehabbing from microfracture surgery. it was the rockets (les, morey and the coaching staff) who made sure that mcgrady now hasn't any value left as a player. they could have chosen a different route but obviously they thought that it would be a mistake. now it remains to be seen if they were right or wrong. morey and his actions at the trade deadline will be a big part of the answer.
I kind of agree with this. The mcgrady chip was the one everyone said he will turn into magic and he may very well do it. In 5 yrs we will see if this team is a true contender or not.
no one cares about reputations... championships are the only thing that matter. so until morey puts a team together that can bring a championship to houston like Mitch Kupchak has done for lakers none of this matters. in my opinion morey aint all that like u people on clutchfans make him seem to be.
Yes it is. He's been through the easy stuff. Now lets see what he does after players like Scola, Brooks, Landry and Lowry are do with a big pay raise, with Mcgrady's contract and with the free agent class. It will def. make or brake him as a gm, won't get him fired, but it will draw the ire of fans and clutchfans if he makes the wrong choice.
Yes, I think it is..... He has done a great job so far, but most of the moves have not been earth shattering, and while some lower draft picks have been great...AB, Landry, CBud....others....have been suspect, Dorsey, Taylor, etc.... The hardest thing to do is to get a superstar player, Morey inherited 2 (injury prone ones), now he has to remake the roster, and gets the benefit of one expiring this year, and the other next year. If all we get out of that is a mediocre hard working team, then I think he will have underpeformed, he needs to take this team to the next level. And I would bet he would say the same thing..... So, yes, his reputation is on the line..........and as GM, it is ALWAYS on the line. DD
lol. everyone's in love with morey. so far, i see him as a slightly better than average gm. he's passionate about the team and very friendly with the fans. everyone thinks he's the best at picking out talent in a draft. err. so far his drafts are even. he drafted brooks and landry who turned out to be studs but that's because they got playing time. if they were drafted by another team, they might have turned out to be busts. budinger was a steal. but the rockets was just lucky that he was still there at that point in the draft. if i were in dm's position, id draft the guy too. how about dorsey? he was so high on him that he lowballed landry. how'd that turn out? how about jermaine taylor? still not seeing playing time and might even get traded. lull, have high hopes for him. leunen? dont use late picks as an excuse because other teams are good at selecting with late picks too (spurs/blair, jazz/millsap, etc). how about trades? his scola trade was amazing. garbage (spanoullis) for a diamond in the rough. no other team thought about it, only dm. but then he comes around and does another trade for david andersen. so i guess that even things out. as for putting his reputation on the line, a GM does that everytime he drafts a player or trades for him. dm put his reputation on the line when he drafted a pg in brooks when we were overflowing with small pgs. he put his reputation on the line when he drafted a small PF in landry. and he especially put his reputation on the line when he gave on young talented prospects to get a mercurial often troubled SF in artest (we gave up batum first, then arthur for him) to build his own big three. he went all out that year, unfortunately, tmac's knee (and eventually tmac the player) gave up on him. he tried to salvage the year AND his reputation by trying to swap out tmac for another scoring wing (carter). nobody seems to understand that. unfortunately, tmac blocked that and dm's been pissed at tmac ever since. so now, is dm's reputation on the line? of course it is. he mishandled the situation. you have a former all star coming off an injury. but instead of being supportive of the guy, you do all you can to keep him from playing. now, what would other all star players think of that situation then? dont you guysthink they dont talk to tmac? you guys keep on wishing for d.wade, but havent you seen his interviews where he sympathized with tmac? do you think he'd come here knowing he might get treated the same? the other gm's know dm's rep. he's shrewd. they know that whatever dm's proposing, theyknow there's a catch: that the deal will always be in dm's favor. so if they enter a discussion with dm, they know a proposalfrom his dm is lopsided in his favor no matter how tempting it seems. and they know dm's in a bind. if he doesnt trade tmac, theyll only have 8m in cap space and he cant get a significant upgrade with that. so theyre gonna wait it out especially since tmac's just an expiring contract to them because they dont know if the guy can still play. if only RA/DM let tmac play and showed everyone he's still the old player he was and he can carry a team to the playoffs.
It was clear Adelman just didn't want him apart of the team, so you can't just make it like it was his fault. Mcgrady mentioned numerous times how he wanted to stay, but he knows his career is on the line if he doesn't prove he can still can produce at a high level but Adelman kept giving him the run around about his role with the team. Now Morey and Les has decided to side with Adelman because Rockets were winning(at the time).
that doesn't make any sense. you act like they magically developed because of playing time. there are lots of busts who had playing time.
I think the credit should go more to Adelmans coaching staff, they've been known for developing young talent. Bibby, turkoglu, kmart,.. etc
