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Kubiak getting an extension

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Feb 1, 2010.

  1. RocketMania1991

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    Even with an extension if he goes 5-11 he's as good as gone.
     
  2. emjohn

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    I also don't agree with this extension. Not a 3-year extension for going 25-23 the past 3 years. With all of the warts of last year, the absurd collapses, the inability to get 4 (read: 3) quarters out of arguably a top 5 offense, the continued inability to establish a reliable run game. Kubiak should have been put on notice.

    I certainly hope there's a good buyout clause in this contract, because next season's schedule is daunting. This was the golden opportunity to make the playoffs - we had relative health, a relatively winnable schedule, and only the Colts were playing well in the division. And we choked away a solid 5 games. Hold on to a single one of them and we taste the postseason.

    I highly doubt we get that close again next year, even if we aren't beating ourselves with regularity.

    Frustrating.
     
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  3. BubbaMac

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    Mcnair is a moron. Well, this just makes one appreciate Les Alexander even more. His decisions may not always be right but at least he tries for a championship and will make changes to better the team. Not just be happy if the record is around .500 or so.
     
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    I like kubiak, I think it's a good call, hopefully. I think he needs to tighten up some things on in-game situations. Maybe another year of learning from his mistakes and the stability as far as another year with the same schemes will help the team. Next year will tell ALOT, our schedule is absolutely brutal.
     
  5. leroy

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    You say that as if Bob McNair is some rookie dip s***. The dude is an extraordinarily successful businessman, pretty much turning everything he touches into gold. He knows the pros and cons of signing Kubiak to an extension now.

    I think it's the right move. You can't use the w/l record when the coach's first season was coming of a 2-14 campaign. I wish last season would have gone differently. 9-7 is an improvement and a disappointment at the same time. Another playoff-less season will likely see Kubiak being fired. This extension has nothing to do with that.
     
  6. Major

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    That could be said about just about every single owner in sports. They didn't get to the point of buying sports franchises by being unsuccessful at their previous ventures (the few exceptions being guys like Junior Steinbrenner who were handed franchises). So by that standard, no owner makes a bad decision?
     
  7. DonkeyMagic

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    I can see this as a ploy to keep the rumor mill from getting out of control after a bad couple of games. Also, it sends a sign of stability and confidence in having the right guy.
     
  8. dbigfeet

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    you do not hav a lame duck coach going into the season. Causes to many problems. If the texans fall he will get axed simple as that. Look at what the Browns did with Romeo Crommel.
     
  9. Chuck 4

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    Exactly how I feel.
     
  10. david12sfa

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    Well Coach K does have a winning record the last 3 years combined. Just saying.
     
  11. Major

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    But it will cost the team a whole lot more. I agree you don't want a lameduck coach, which gives you two real options:

    1. A one-year extension; there's no reason Kubiak would reject this given that he knew his job was questionable going forward anyway. And it prevents him from being a free agent next year, so if you determine he's the coach going forward, you can sign him to a long-term deal next year.

    2. A long-term extension. The drawback is that if he doesn't work out, you're stuck with a bigger buyout or paying a more significant salary. The benefit, depending on what he's getting paid, is that if he does well this year, you probably have him locked in a bit cheaper than you would next year.

    Whether this is a good deal or not really depends on what the $$ amount of the extension is.
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    he has been a successful businessman, he also gave david carr an extension, gold, not so much

    that being said i'm a kubiak fan, I'm down with the move
     
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    Why do people think it would cause problems if he is a lameduck coach? That's just what the media tells you. I can see that in college, but not the NFL. Playeres are attracted to money in the NFL. A big FA would not say no to millions of dollars because the coach may not be around in two years. In the NFL, it's almost a given that a coach won't be around in two years if the team is bad. Players will go to the team that offers them the most money and playing time.
    While I don't agree with the extension, as fans it's not too big of a deal. If we have a bad year, Kubiak is most likely gone like most people would want. Then McNair is out a few million, or whatever the buyout is. So it's his money that he is risking.
     
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    I don't worry about the 5-11 season, but the 7 to 9 wins season where we had some injury issues which Kubiak can put the blame on. Mediocrity is hard to get rid of.
     
  15. Air Langhi

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    I think the biggest problem this franchise is the owner.

    No bad character guys - we still have some
    Resigning carr
    giving kubiak an extension when they they really only beat 1 team with a winning record.

    Kubiak might go 12-4 and win the sb, but this was way too early.
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    Give me a break, you can't be serious. The problem has, always been a lack of talent and judgment of talent. Look back at the first few years of the texans draft and you a bunch of trash.

    It's always easy to say that the guy at the top is at fault, but McNair isnt/wasnt making bad draft decisions. I guess you could blame him for hiring the wrong people but that is a weak link. ANd really, the people he did hire did have solid track records.

    Over the last few years the texans have finally been able to draft som exceptional players and have managed to become semi playoff contenders.
     
  17. Air Langhi

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    Like I said the texans may go 12-4 and win the SB next year, but the fact is Bob McNair keeps making questionable decisions.

    If they went 12-4 and won the SB I would love if Kubiak got a huge extension.
     
  18. Coach AI

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    Multi year is dumb. Even if you believe the Texans are on the way up and Kubiak can keep them going in the right direction (which I can possibly buy), you don't reward a sub .500 record, no division titles, no playoffs, and a 1-5 division record in this league with a multi yearextension.
     
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  19. Fyreball

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    This is something that I've thought of, which is why I agree with the extension. An extension doesn't necessarily mean that the Texans and Kubiak are married for the next 4 years. If his job performance declines, he will be fired, no matter what his contract situation looks like. What this does do though is give players who might be looking at the Texans as a potential destination a sense of security. It will allow them to really look at our schemes and know that this is what we're gonna be running for their time here. I think it's a good move, as long as the money makes sense.
     
  20. DonkeyMagic

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    exactly. like i said earlier, it's a sign of stability and no one wants go somewhere that's in flux.


    I don't think this decision is that questionable though. I mean, if Kubes proves to be worthless next year he is gone with a pennies on the dollar buyout...but that doesn't effect the team in any significant way. If Kubes proves to have turned the corner in coaching then we have a quality head coach locked up for a few years.

    This is the prudent move since Kubes was not let go this year.
     

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