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Brooks in the Clutch Must Stop

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by gfab-babyboi, Jan 31, 2010.

  1. DaDakota

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    Wrong my good friend, he is a decent passer, not the best but plenty good enough.

    He just doesn't have guys that can finish.

    Did you see the starters shooting percentage last night?

    Brooks assist numbers will go up when we get better wings to play with him....and a better center.

    He has 3 duds in the offensive lineup....

    DD
     
  2. waytookrzy079

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    with our current team and lineup...11 out 10 times, you give you it to AB...yes i said ELEVEN out of TEN.

    BUT...it would be nice to see a pick and ROLL or pick and POP.

    AB can take the pick and stop n' pop or if Landry would ROLL to the basket, that's an EASY DUNK/LAYUP or Landry can take the open jumper

    NO WAY would i trust HORRIZA (as someone else mentioned earlier in this thread) cuz we know he got damn lucky on the shot that sent the game to OT.

    NO WAY you give it to Battier. SCOLA? MAYBE...LANDRY? MAYBE....but you need someone to SET THEM UP.
     
  3. BucMan55

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    Didn't ya know DD?? It's all about when and where you get the ball that determines how good of a wing player you are. A Steve Nash or Chris Paul would have average wing players looking like all-stars. After all, thats the only way the Suns' starting lineup could shoot as well as they do. :grin:


    Wait what?.....What about Paul's running mates? You mean Chris Paul is such a great point guard that he can take a stud shooter like Peja and make him look like Ryan Bowen??? :p
     
  4. JayLau910

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    i think brooks one on one is the best option. for whatever reason he gets trapped on the pick n rolls and they seem to hurt him more than help him. i have more confidence in him just taking his guy off the dribble. to me, that's the best option. that or getting it to landry on the block or setting up a shot off a screen for budinger.
     
  5. josh_is_white

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    brooks or landry r top 2 choices and scola is 3rd
     
  6. mrfirefly7

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    I would run pick and roll with Yao and AB. If AB miss the shot, Yao can go for offensive rebound and put back because his man is out of position from PnR.
    Pick and Pop may also work with Yao and AB and set up Yao for ~15 footer. It worked well during Rockets vs Spurs last year ended with 2 successful layup by Scola from back door.
     
  7. choujie

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    I'm not talking about the specific play. In general AB doesn't have the ability to make plays for other players consistently. He does have the ability to make play for himself though.
     
  8. realmustang

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    He hit every shot except the one that counted most. The OP is right. Go back and check. Except for one time, every other time he has had a chance to either tie or win a game at the end he has either turned the ball over or missed that shot. A clutch player is one who can hit a shot when it counts the most. AB is not clutch and unfortunately nobody else on the team is either.
     
  9. realmustang

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    And based on his history of missing clutch shots, he would miss again.
     
  10. realmustang

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    Hakeem didn't hit many game winners because whenever he got the ball, teams would come at him leaving other players such as Elie and Maxwell wide open to take the shot. The best player doesn't have to take the last shot but the ball should go through that player first. When you know who was playing (he shall remain nameless), you knew he was going to get the ball but what made him dangerous was that you didn't know if he was going to shoot it or pass it to the open man when people ran it him. That's what AB still needs to learn to do because right now, you know he's going to do one thing and one thing only, drive the ball to the basket and take the shot. Just because the coach gives him the ball at the end doesn't mean he has to take the last shot.
     
  11. choujie

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    AB is a decent passer with a lot TOs. That actually shows why he is not a great playmaker, below average in that department as a starting PG.

    All starters didn't shoot well last night, that included AB himself. But a PG's job is to make everybody shoot better, shoot more open shots, shoot at the spot they feel comfortable with, AB can't do that consistently. There is a reason every starter on Rox is shooting career low or near career low this year.

    If everybody can finish really well, Lowry would fit the team better, Those guys would shoot at a higher percentage than what AB creats for himself.

    When you saw Tmac used to play, you thought " wow, how could he find that guy", when you saw Lowry plays, you thought "wow, how could he get the ball to Landry so accurately?" When you see AB play, you either think "Wow, he made a great shot" or " well, two guys were open at the corner".

    AB is a very good finisher, but not that good a play maker.
     
  12. LabMouse

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    We are missing Lowry badly. This thread would not be here if Lowry was in the game. The rockets would likely miss the playoff due to the Lowry's injure, who is only a mentally real tough player on this team.
     
  13. BucMan55

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    Remember, if he misses any of the previous few shots, the one he missed at the end does not matter. I guess I get to paraphrase Bobby Bowden again:

    "It's never a clutch shot until you miss."
     
  14. realmustang

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    When it comes to finding open players, AB's biggest disadvantage is his height. It's hard for him to see open players. That's what made you know who such a good passer. He had the ability to look over the defense and pass to the open man. AB is a very good player and I'm definitely not putting that loss on him last night because it should never have to come down to one free throw or one last shot to win a game.
     
  15. realmustang

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    But he didn't and it did.
     
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    He usually gets manhandled on said final shots, and the refs let it go, cause it's the last possession and anything goes.
     
  17. choujie

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    That's because his name is not Wade.

    Anyway, AB needs more weight to absorb contact in those situations. And in the same time, he can't lose his speed.
     
  18. BucMan55

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    I am basically saying all the shots he hit up to the one he missed were as clutch as the one he missed. So saying Brooks is the least clutch on the team(not your words) is a far cry from simply saying he missed a clutch shot.


    BTW Nash, DWill, Rondo, and Westbrook all have more Turnovers per game than Brooks does. Heck, Mo Williams, Baron Davis, Tyreke Evans, Derrick Rose, and Tony Parker all have similar TPG numbers as Brooks.
     
  19. Acedude

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    First you title your thread "Brooks in the Clutch Must Stop" and commit your original post on AB in game winning situations, then after I posted my points, you now say you're talking about AB in general??? Color me confused, but you're back peddling faster than MJ's moon walk. I'm lost on the point you're trying to make.
     
  20. LosPollosHermanos

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    your ignorance is outstanding.

    Before complaining about brooks not passing it to that "Open" player, acknowlede that you are talking about

    hayes

    battier

    and ariza.

    Worrel said it plently last night, someone has to score, and brooks has to b.c he is most able at this point. Don't complain about something nothing can be done about at this point.

    It amazes me that people think we have a championship roster and believe that brooks should be able to get hayes, battier, and artiza wide open layups all day.

    Its always brooks's fault isn't it? Blame the leading scorer on the team that gets paid 1 mil. but keep praising the likes of tmac and his amazing passing ability at 23 mil. The double standards are glaring.
     

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