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[Philly Inquirer] Trade rumors swirling around 76ers' Iguodala(McGrady)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketsPimp, Jan 28, 2010.

  1. Lovemachine2000

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    And he is not paid max dollars. His salaries for this season and the next are just above $12 million. Consider his production of 17.4 ppg, 6.8 rpb, 5.7 apg, and almost 2 steals, not to mention his defense and hustle, he is more than earning his salary. I actually thought the 76ers negotiated a good contract with AI, but that organization's problems are too deep, and as we know, AI is no franchise player.

    IMO, getting Iggy is be the best available big-move option for Houston, provided that we take Dalembert's contract and not Brand's (God no, now that's a rotting albatross). Bosh's expiring contract situation is a bit complicated, and even if an extension can be worked out along with the trade, I am still inclined to take the Iggy deal over Bosh. I am just not enamored with jump-shooting big men who play little defense.
     
  2. wfox

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    Fixed
     
  3. matac3

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    The point is does AI fit into the team and help us with a title.
    Lets take a look at the next two years. If we still have Brooks, Scola,Landy,Ariza, Yao, AND you add AI... Also, adding Iguodala doesnt mean we cant add another star player. Battier, Kyle, and either Landy or Scola can give you another top 20 player..
     
  4. Dave_78

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    I think I'm in the minority when I say this (but I"ll say it anyway) but I don't think this team needs that type of guy. I think Brooks, Landry, Iguodala and even Scola are all guys who on some nights, against some defenses can be a go-to guy down the stretch. In fact, unless you have Kobe, Lebron or Wade on your team I think that is more favorable situation to be in. I can only imagine how much better Brooks would be if defenders were not sagging off of Ariza to congest the lane and make his penetration so much more difficult. I think by adding another quality scorer and allowing the capable guys to be "the man" at different parts of the game gives them the confidence and rhythm they need down the stretch to be big shot makers AND it keeps the defense somewhat guessing.

    For the record, and even though you did not bring this up, I want to say that I don't feel Chris Bosh is a guy who I want taking that win or lose shot any more than I want Brooks, Landry or possibly even Iggy taking it. He's a hell of a player but he has never come across as a closer to me at all.
     
  5. Hak34

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    This would usually be the part where I would post Philly's glorious record, and point out how much Iggy is getting it done. Or maybe I could point out that Philly hasn't done anything over the last few years with Iggy. Or that his numbers have dropped (without looking it up).

    I guess only a true genious thinks adding him to a slipping ball club around 500 puts us over the hump. Or that by adding his 60 million on the books for the next four years would be great.

    Let me help you out. NO ONE...NO WHERE...believes Iggy + Rockets = real contenders.
     
  6. machine

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    not realistic, but i found it interesting anyway:

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  7. matac3

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    Another plus to Iquodala is that atleast your getting a full season from the guy.

    04-05 PHI 82 82
    05-06 PHI 82 82
    06-07 PHI 76 76
    07-08 PHI 82 82
    08-09 PHI 82 82

    Hes played nearly every game of his NBA career.
     
  8. Ramathorn006

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    Gasol was on a crap team and look what he did for the lakers
     
  9. Dave_78

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    I'm surprised that after all the injury problems this team has endured and all the "if healthy" statements we have had to add to our predictions over the years people don't pay more attention to this guy's durability.
     
  10. Lovemachine2000

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    That makes no sense. Why would we bring in Iggy AND Butler while keeping Ariza, Battier, and Budinger? And no way would Philly take Arena's contract.
     
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    I understand what ur doing, but they are trading Iggy to get rid of the extended contract
     
  12. Depressio

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    Pros:

    Iguodala is one of the best on the fast break. The Rockets are a quick team.
    Iguodala is a great defender. The Rockets defense needs help.
    Iguodala is a good passer. The Rockets offense is predicated on passing more than isolation.

    Cons:

    Iguodala is not a great shooter. Zone defense has been killing us and he won't break that trend.
    Iguodala's contract is huge. It might hamper cap space/flexibility and get us in the LT.

    Personally, I think he's a great fit for how the team is run, and while his contract may be a tad bit too much, I wouldn't go nearly as far to say it's a "bad contract". It's not a great one (like Landry/Brooks are), but it's not bad either. I don't think we'll be able to get anything better in free agency, so I'd go for him.
     
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    We won't know anything till we try something else!

    Cuz what we're doing now dang sure aint working!
     
  14. matac3

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    Thats true. After having Tmac around I have learned one thing: Before you buy ANY superstar, look at how many games they have played and the injury list that comes. This team doesnt need to take a risk on any superstart that cant stay healthy.

    Atleast Iquodala plays every game and earns his money.
     
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    The fact that his contract runs past the 2010-2011 season seems like an issue to me. With talks of radically reduced salaries and a sure lockout after that season, it seems like a big risk to take on a player that has 44mill in guaranteed money coming after that point.
     
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    lets just say hes 10 times the player battier is while being paid less than twice of what battier is paid
     
  17. Dave_78

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    Exactly. Even if a guy with better stats was available (Kevin Martin as an example) I would rather have 18/7/5 for 82 games plus the playoffs than 22/5/5 for 60 games and maybe the playoffs.
     
  18. W22_STREAK

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    I dont think that should be an issue. after all, yao will be 31 by then. if we dont spend the cash now, we won't even be able to spend it even if we wanted to later. plenty of teams would be happy to grab that contract
     
  19. Sooner423

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    Well we can spend the cash now, but a deal for Iguodala is spending cash later too. Caron Butler makes more sense with that factor in mind.
     
  20. LifeisButaDream

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    So explain what are DM and RA DOING instead of just SAYING that they want to win this year.do you really think there this INCOMPETENT.
     

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