been saying this everytime, next year someone gonna bring this thread back up and we gon be talking about how much of a genius morey is, every team has these experienced wing defenders who can knock down big shots. So what if hes not doin ish this year, its a good time for him to figure it out with himself so that he can be that much better with all the looks he would get next year with Yao attracting most attention.
Honestly, unless Morey can flip him into something better, we shouldn't have signed him. Just as some of us feared, he is Shandon Anderson part 2. DD
We signed Ariza because we thought he was a player of great potential. Last season with the Laker's play making he was beginning to show that he could be an asset to our team. Unfortunately our coach has demanded too much of him this season, especially when we don't have play makers .
We signed Ariza because we thought he was a player of great potential. Last season with the Laker's play making he was beginning to show that he could be an asset to our team. Unfortunately our coach has demanded too much of him this season, especially when we don't have play makers . PS Koby please help out here!
I was expecting better performance, but it's not a big deal. Even if he never improves, so what? We took a small gamble that didn't pay off. MLE isn't insignificant, but it's not like he's an Elton Brand-level cap killer. Besides, I believe that if we can get a strong 1 or 2 option beside him, he'll be a very efficient player for us.
Ariza has been playing to my expectation's for someone who has been playing out position, and has been inhibited by battier given that they have the same game(only diff. is that Ariza is Longer and more athletic).... to make things simple ARIZA is a better SF than Shane Battier(a position that doesn't involve as much dribbling, but instead slashing and setting up for three and back door ally oops)......what we lack is a two guard(I wonder who could have helped us in that Department ) --RB
I will go with Option : DM was jealous of all the attention CD receives for getting Pippen, so he did'nt want to be outdone. However, it looks like it's going down to the wire and will be determined only at the season ending buzzer.
Because he is amazing. Handles like Magic and the heart of Jordan. In reality people were blinded by what he did in the playoffs with the Lakers. But turns out he's just not that good.
His contract is fat. Look at what he gives us and then watch a game and look at how bad he screws us. Then, look at what everyone else on the team makes. His contract is FAT. Just because some other team might have overpaid him worse than we did doesn't mean he was/is a good deal.
I agree with all of what you said. I just fail to understand how hard it is for him to apply fundamental basketball techniques such as dribbling, triple threat, passing, etc. It's one thing to be in a different system that doesn't require you to do much but play passing lanes and shoot wide open 3's, but it is apparent that he can't make basketball moves outside of what he did in LA. I mean the guy came out of UCLA after one season and played with NY and ORL and he looks as though he struggles with layups. With all that said, I do believe he will work hard during the offseason because of how much he improved his 3-point shot during his time in LA. I believe he will be more valuable when Yao returns and we somehow get a wing that requires a double team, but it sure is hard watching him try to do things hes not used to.
Morey also signed Dorsey. The guy who couldn't get into the game in time tonight because he is so lazy he walked to the scorer's table when he should have been doing cart wheels at the thought of getting some playing time. Morey does a great job most of the time but he dropped the ball on Dorsey (how can you not know the guy you plan to draft is a lazy bum) and now it appears he has dropped the ball on Ariza.
His contract is fat by rockets-role-player standards. We've got guys that are severely underpaid in brooks, scola, landry, and lowry. that IS NOT the norm around the league. Based on NBA standards Ariza does not have a fat contract. I either mentioned this earlier here or in the other ariza thread, but fans have become spoiled with some of the crazy cheap contracts we have some guys under. That's a good job by morey of finding guys who can contribute signficantly at a low cost. It's what he does, ariza is no different, but it's not as great of a deal like the others. Considering Ariza is playing almost 40 mins a game and taking on a big role on this team, 5 mill isn't a lot. Most guys that are asked to do what he's doing make closer to 10 mill. Unfortunately he hasnt been doign things efficiently, which is why some think he's overpaid, but he isnt. He's a good value now and once he goes back to being a role guy he'll be at his exact value.
that is kind of true. landry/scola/lowry/brooks won't be paid like this when their contracts are over.
I think what happen was DM panicked a bit when he found out that Yao is going to be out and Artest signed with the Lakers... DM knew he lost Artest and so he rushed to get Ariza hoping to make up for the lost but overall, I think the Lakers got the better part of the deal. So DM was hoping that by signing Ariza, he would developed into a good player but he doesn't show any signs of a good player. DM said he is still young and has time to develop but around the age of 24, most players in the NBA should already be well developed at that age. When Artest was Ariza's age, he was already defensive player of the year along with being voted into the All star team and is much more efficient than Ariza. I think DM made a big mistake by signing Ariza to a large contract. Ariza is a good player but that is the best he will get. Nothing more. I remember at the beginning of the season, people was saying Ariza will be better than Tmac when Tracy left Toronto and headed to Orlando. But the differences was Tmac was averaging 15 ppg in Toronto and he was only 20. By the next season when he was 21 years old, Tmac average went up to 27 ppg, 7.5 rpg and 4.8 apg. Compare that to Ariza when he turned 21, his average was 8.9 ppg, 1 apg, and 4.4 rpg. That is a big difference on their improvements. Ariza came into the league when he was 19 years old. His development was slow. He cannot even crack double digits scoring averages until he came to Houston where he average 15.6 ppg. His average this year is the same as Tmac last season when he was in and out of the line up. But even though Tmac was in and out of the line up, Tmac was more efficient at scoring than Ariza. Though last season, Tmac's was shooting badly but manage to have a better FG percentage than Ariza. So Tracy had one of his worst season in his career and its still better than Ariza's best season of his career. Even though Ariza is finally averaging above double digit scoring, it doesn't mean that he is improving. Any decent player in the Nba can score just as much as Ariza or more if given the opportunity and a chance to shoot as much as he is. Plus, the way he plays doesn't help him much either. His clumsiness, the way he move with the ball just look terrible. He is the opposite of smooth. The way he plays offense basically show that his ceiling is not very high. His potential to be an All star someday is very very slim. The best he will get is a very good role player. Ariza is built for catch and shoot, cutting through the lane and catching the ball to finish around the rim, and steal a few loose ball here and there. But he is an overrated defender. Most of the time, he gambles too much on the defensive end. He often cannot stay in front of his man like Shane. His defensive fundamentals isn't bright. So I think Morey made a mistake in signing Ariza. Simply because he just don't have what it takes to be the player Morey and Rick dream of. They brought him here hoping he can develop fast and into an All star caliber player because they gave him a bigger role, more playing time, and more shots. If given a bigger role, more playing time and more shots, most players around the league can do just as much as Ariza can. If Ariza wants to become the player Morey wants him to be, he have to work harder than he can even imagine. He will have to spend countless hours during the offseason training and doing whatever he can to be a better player. But one offseason wouldn't be enough. It would take a few off-seasons for Ariza to become a more efficient, well rounded offensive weapon for the Rockets. He has the size and athleticism. But his ball handling is just terrible. His shot off the dribble is bad and his foot work is just as bad as Stromile Swift. So if Ariza even think that he will be an All star someday, having a bigger role with more minutes along with shots just won't cut it. Hopefully he will get it and work his behind off this offseason because he have so many different things he desperately need to improve in. If he still believe that he can become an all star without any hard work put in, then watch him slowly migrating to the end of the bench like he was in his beginning of his career.
i care more about why everybody thinks what the rockets are doing is so special. They are 24-20 and yet people are saying they are playing better without t-mac is insane. I think Rick adelman messed up
if you're really THAT lost on why we picked up Ariza, look back to the playoffs on the Lakers v. Rockets series. Ariza kills us.
because he was guarding stand still battier, and artest defense was horrible on ariza. Artest blew that series on purpose im convinced to join lakers.
