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Obese man sues McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's and KFC

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Cold Hard, Jul 25, 2002.

  1. giddyup

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    Well.... I'm pro-Tobacco but anti-smoking. I care more about my heatlh than someone else's! :D
     
  2. Surfguy

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    That's the problem with fast food alright. What I can't figure out is why noone has come up with a fast food restaraunt that is solely focused on healthy food....like salads, meatless burgers, healthy sandwiches, baked potatos, health shakes, fruit entrees, etc. . Sure...there are healthy restaraunts(pretty scarce) you can go that are not fast and have no drive-thru. This healthy fast food restaraunt would have a menu with a wide variety of healthy foods....from soups to tofu chili to whole grain bread.

    I think such a place would make a killing. If someone goes to a fatty fast food and sees a health item on the menu, then their probably going to go with the burger and fries anyway. If you go to a healthy fast food restaraunt, you have no choice but to eat something healthy cause we won't offer any really fattening items with lots of saturated fats, super size bs, tons of calories, and lots of fat grams.

    I wish I could open up my own and put it right in the middle of a Wendy's and McDonald's. I wonder if anyone would go to my establishment or they would just go the American diet ala fa(s)t food. Then, we could open up a chain of these healthy fast food restaraunts. Why is it noone has ever tried this? I think it would work rather well. I'm not talking Subway, either. I believe there is a large segment of the population who want both fast and healthy food via either drive thru or dine in. Is it so much to ask in today's world? Instead, we got sh*t fast food killing American's left and right. Granted, it's a personal choice to eat that stuff but it's also a matter of convenience and quickness like the guy above says. I don't think he will win his lawsuit, though, cause it really is garbage.

    We could all pitch in and start it up...call it ClutchCity's High Quality Fast Food(we also show Rockets games if you come in; over 200 served and counting :) ).

    I THINK IT WOULD WORK...WE JUST NEED THE MONEY, SOME INNOVATION, AND SOME HARD WORK! WHO'S WITH ME? WE WILL BE RICH IN A FEW YEARS!!!!!!!

    Seriously though, I think it could work in this day and age. I don't know of any fast food health restaraunts. Do you?

    Surf
     
  3. arkoe

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    Surfguy, if memory serves, originally most of the fast food places served healthy foods. They soon found out that the stuff with more grease and more fat sold better, and therefore eventually threw out their healthy items on the menu. I could be wrong about that though, can anyone back me up? Burger King, I believe, has some new "healthy alternatives" on their menu. If you go ask the employees how well they sell, I'd be willing to bet that they would tell you not well.
     
  4. Surfguy

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    Well, originally...1 out of 4(or whatever) people were not overweight or obese. Fast food has ruined Americans' diets. People used to eat fast food blindly back in the day. Nutrition? Nobody cared. Now, they freaking care cause their all dying of heart disease.

    And, I'm not talking about mixing menus of healthy item and fatty items...that does NOT work(or, at least, not well). You want someone to choose a healthy item over a fatty item...it's simple...you don't even offer it. I'm not talking about getting rid of all fat...just the saturated and cutting back to reasonable levels with healthy fats.

    I think it could work well with a diverse menu. If not, then that will tell you how much most Americans care about buying fast healthy food. I think everyone needs a fast, healthy solution that is convenient above all else...whether it be breakfast, lunch, or dinner. You want fat, you got enough choices already.

    Whomever thinks it won't work...I don't believe you. It just needs to be done right and it needs some healthy advertising.

    Surf
     
  5. VesceySux

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    You are correct. Did you know that 90% of all children visit a fast food joint at least once a week? Who's driving them there? Hmmmm...

    One problem today is the massive amount of food you get. 50 years ago, a small size soda was 8 ounces. Today, it's 12. Then, you had the basic burger. Today, you have double and triple burgers. Also, these places have started pushing cardiac-trouble-worthy bacon on you because it's a high profit item for him, as are the double burgers and super size fries. The more you eat, the higher the profit.

    Should this guy win the lawsuit? No way. Will he bring media attention to perils of eating fast food? I hope so. Everybody should read Fast Food Nation. It's not the shocking expose I thought it would be, but I definitely see the fast food industry in a different, more negative light now.
     
  6. HayesStreet

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    I think you're right. Sorry about that Timing.


    Hey! I didn't see this part at first. Must have been the small font! There aren't any documented 'victims of secondhand smoke.' And if you assume there are you should still admit that they also had the choice to work, eat, sleep, lounge in a smoking environment, or not.
     
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  7. Rockets2K

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    Pathetic Pathetic Pathetic...

    Noone wants to take responsibility for what they do...

    If I screw up and do something stupid, I did it..my fault..I'm not gonna ask ANYONE to feel bad for me or pay me because I'm a dumbass...

    if I get fat, my fault...
    If I get lung cancer....my fault
    same thing...different way to kill yourself...

    I knew damn good and well when I started smoking (some 20 yrs ago) that it wasn't good for me...how could taking smoke into my lungs be good for me??

    Just like I know that eating fatty foods and greasy burgers were not good for me....anybody with a half a brain knows that..

    And if you don't..learn to read for Christs sake...(or whatever diety ya want....) It's not like the facts have been hidden for the last 20 something years.

    Jeezzee...lawyers....and the stupid sheep they represent...:confused::mad:

    insert random roydelton joke here
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    Almost anything can cause a positive feedback and promote addiction. It's just like that mother who's suing a video game company over her 23 yr old son's suicide.

    Is he suing because fast food markets made their food taste too good and he couldn't help gorge himself over the cheap prices?

    If only they genetically engineer nicotine in brocolli and brussel sprouts...
     
  9. Mrs. JB

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    From the Phillip Morris website:

    Public health officials have concluded that secondhand smoke (also known as "environmental tobacco smoke" or "ETS") causes or increases the risk of diseases -- including lung cancer and heart disease -- in non-smoking adults, as well as conditions in children such as asthma, respiratory infections, cough, wheeze, otitis media (middle ear infection) and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. In addition, public health officials have concluded that secondhand smoke can exacerbate adult asthma and cause eye, throat and nasal irritation.

    As you said, children don't have alternatives -- they have parents. And if their parents are smokers, they don't have a choice but to live in a smoking environment.
     
  10. TraJ

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    I'm guessing they wouldn't really be profitable. Yes, you and I both probably know several people who would go to these places, but how many compared to places McD, BK, etc? I just don't think there's quite the market for such a place, certainly not on a large scale. Otherwise, I'm convinced they would already exist.
     
  11. Hydra

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    mmmmmmmmm, tomacco
     
  12. Jeff

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    I agree with you, sadly. Most healthy alternatives just don't sell...yet.

    Personally, I believe that, with the growing number of meatless and healthy alternatives in grocery stores, we'll see more of that in restaurants and eventually entire chains dedicated to it.

    Just 5 or 6 years ago, there wasn't a signle vegetarian alternative to hamburgers in Kroger or Randall's or HEB or whatever other grocery chain you can think of. Today, there are entire freezer sections dedicated to healthy and meatless alternatives. It is only a matter of time.
     
  13. Jeff

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    Just a quick question...

    Hayes Street obviously believes that secondhand smoke is not harmful. He's said it here before and argued his position. Does anyone here HONESTLY believe that secondhand smoke isn't harmful besides Hayes? Just wondering if this is Hayes Street versus everyone or not. :)
     
  14. Invisible Fan

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    "Ewww this tastes like Grandma!...Gimme more!" :p
     
  15. Rockets2K

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    Even I as a smoker will admit this one...
    which is why I don't smoke if the girl is in the car...I try to smoke as much as possible outside..or if I do smoke inside..it's in a specific room that she doesn't hardly ever come into...That's the best I can do for her...and she's been healthy as a horse...
     
  16. HayesStreet

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    Only two points Mrs. JB.

    1. As you can see it says 'public health officials have concluded...' I don't know how to put a link from a prior post in, but I think I've written about 10,000 words about how those conclusions were drawn. Not impressive at all. And its on PM's website as a result of the deal the struck with the state AG's, not because its scientifically valid.

    2. I smoke and I have a child. I smoke outside my home (on the terrace), and in fact hardly EVER smoke when I'm around her at all. I would not risk being wrong and don't propose that for anyone else. But the 'victims of secondhand smoke' was a reference to those who would be suing Big Tobacco because of ETS. Those are adults.
     
  17. HayesStreet

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    It might be better if you asked 'Does anyone here HONESTLY believe that the declaration of ETS being harmful was a political decision, not a scientific one, besides Hayes?'

    Or 'Has anyone here actually gone back through the last twenty years of tobacco studies on ETS, and the EPA Reports, and the Congressional hearings, besides Hayes?'

    "IT IS HUMAN to stand with the crowd; it is divine to stand alone" (uh, not sure who to credit that saying to). I guess its me versus everyone else...:p
     
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    </b>HayesStreet</b>: Is the fact that many people have an uncomfortable reaction to second-hand smoke not sufficient proof that it is a harmful element? Only ex-smokers find something comforting about it....
     
  19. HayesStreet

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    I was in a restaurant with some co-workers after a hard day one time. We sat down and ordered some beers and started to relax. After a few minutes my eyes started to burn and water. I was like 'what the hell?' I look at my compatriots to see if it was just me, and sure enough they were having the same reaction. Most unpleasant. I got up to talk to the manager and find out what the problem was. Turns out the cook was chopping this HUGE mound of onions and the fan over his head was pushing those fumes into the general dining area. An uncomfortable reaction does necessarily mean some ultra damaging substance is being unwittingly thrust into your veins. Eat too many prunes and you'll have an 'uncomfortable reaction.'

    And you could always go somewhere else, where they do not allow smoking, yes? I didn't tell them not to chop onions, we just went somewhere else after the first round.

    (Oh, one more thing. I think Desert Scar is the only one to post on this issue that made some very fine arguments to back up the position that ETS is probably harmful. If you're really interested, you can search for the thread. Give the devil his due I say.)
     
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    Hayes, onions are onions. Tar is tar, etc.
     

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