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Trade Buzz: 10 hot names - Ford mentions Rox 3X

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by xiki, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. Melechesh

    Melechesh Member

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    I think he was talking about Aaron and Carl. The only way I would give up Carl in a trade with Philly is they include Speights in the mix.
     
  2. dachuda86

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    Iguodala
    Andre Iguodala, G/F, Sixers
    For the past several weeks, I've dismissed the idea that the 76ers, even if they are desperate to reduce payroll, would give away Iguodala for the expiring contract of Tracy McGrady. But after talking with a number of people close to the situation, I think it's plausible.

    A deal of Iguodala and Samuel Dalembert for McGrady would work under terms of the collective bargaining agreement. While it would eat up any cap space the Rockets might have this summer, if Iguodala is the prize, who cares?

    So what's the holdup? A couple of things. From Houston's point of view, Dalembert's 15 percent trade kicker would be a bitter pill. And from Philadelphia's perspective, it's important to get back an asset for a building block like Iguodala. While the Sixers love the idea of getting his long-term salary and Dalembert's off the books, they want something in return. The Rockets could offer Trevor Ariza or Aaron Brooks to sweeten the deal, but it sounds as though talks haven't gotten that far yet.





    yes to this! yes yes yes! Sam is a decent backup for Yao and Iggy is awesome. Also, Sam isn't "too" big to run the floor. He'd fit in very well. I'm sure Rick could get his attitude in line. He has his ways.
     
  3. Hakeemtheking

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    Very insightful post. Thx.
     
  4. Asian Sensation

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    Just out of curiosity who do you think is the right guy? I think Iggy is our most realistic prospect and he's readily available. I think his game suits us very well and I don't think he's quite peaked yet. We're not going to land a Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Melo, Roy, D.Williams etc. Iggy would look good in Rocket Red.

    I don't understand why so many people are down on Dalembert. He's an athletic 7 footer who holds down the paint, blocks shots and rebounds. Sure his contract is huge, his offense could be better and his game's a bit raw but what'd you expect? Hakeem Olajuwon?

    Dalembert could fill the role Deke had for us. Obviously Deke had much more knowledge and feel for the game but Dalembert can bring some of those things Deke brought which I mentioned earlier. The blocked shots, rebounds, easy put-backs and enforcing the paint.

    Another reason why I wouldn't mind Dalembert at all is because I'm not very confident about banking on a 30 year old Yao Ming coming off a serious knee injury who's got a deep history of injury problems and seems very prone to them. I wouldn't mind Dalembert being the highest paid "back-up" if Yao does indeed return.

    Some things to think about.

    - We need the size. You can't teach size. We have half a season left and playoff aspirations. Dalembert can help us immediately.

    - I doubt Yao plays all 82 games next year.

    - Yao's ideal minutes should be about 28-30 mins per game. That leaves 18-20 for Dalembert and Hayes.

    - What if Yao doesn't return?

    - What if Yao re-inujures himself?

    - What if Yao never returns to form?

    - What about when Yao retires?

    Way too many Q's surrounding Yao for my liking.
     
  5. FLASH21

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    A very expensive 7 million dollar weapon coming off the bench?

    I can see Chuck coming off, he only makes about 2 million a year. But wouldn't you think we'd be able to nab some young talent for Shane's $7 million expiring contract next year.

    I'm sure there is some team that would be willing to give something up for Shane's services this year, if they see themselves as having a shot at a title. Denver would be one, that could be a possibility.

    I just don't see Shane coming off the bench at what he makes not even next season when his contract alone becomes an asset.
     
  6. Pull_Up_3

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    THANK YOU

    all these people dreaming about wade and lebron

    and dalembert would decrease yaos minutes and nothings for sure as far as his health goes as u pointed out
     
  7. rhino17

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    Who are they gonna get better than Iggy? I think he would fit well. A guy that is willing to play defense, and a great athlete (much more so than Ariza) who can finish around the rim. It would also allow Ariza to go back to the role he played with the Lakers, a guy coming off the bench. A future lineup of Yao, Carl, AB, and Iggy looks pretty sweet to me

    Yes, Sammy would be the most expensive backup center but isn't it worth it while also having the most injured starting center.
     
  8. thesaint

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    Yes that looks good for this season but IMO Iggy is not a ticket to championship caliber team even with Yao back. I think Rockets should not take any huge contracts this year and just wait till next year to sign a star like Wade or Johnson or even Bosh.
     
  9. dexkk

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    I think Morey is hesitant about Dalembert because he doesn't think he fits well with this team. He's not known for good basketball IQ. To me he's more like a taller Dorsey with more talent of course but gets paid around 14 mil if you include the trade kicker.
     
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    People look at what Dalembert has done this year, but look at what he's done the past couple of years. Nothing to write home about, considering the amount of money he's getting. And because he has a 15% trade kicker if we trade for him, we'll have to include somebody else.

    No thanks!
     
  11. Dave_78

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    I think Shane is valued by Morey and Adelman quite a bit. It would take more than a contender or near-contender is willing to give up in order to pry him away. No team that thinks it is close is going to part with the talent that makes it a contender just to grab Shane.

    I see him being here at least until the middle of next season.
     
  12. J.R.

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    -Iffy on Iggy/Dalembert
    -NO way in hell on Carter
    -Don't see Shane getting moved unless Morey is "blown away"
     
  13. Sooner423

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    One factor to consider is that Dalembert will be in a contract year next year. He's already stepped up his game considerably...
     
  14. thesaint

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    Why cant Rockets sign Wade or Lebron?? They will have the money to sign them. And who said Yao is not coming back? Yao is already looking forward to returning back to court next season the last time I heard. Why would Wade or Lebron not want to play along side Yao, Scola, Landry, Brooks, Battier and with a good contract?? IMO Rockets has better role players than the Cavs. Take out Lebron, and Cavs is a lottery team. Even with Yao n Tmac out Rockets is still a playoff team.
     
  15. Sooner423

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    If nothing else happens, Battier and Andersen for Big Z makes a lot of sense to me. That with a combination of Yao restructuring his contract, which has been discussed, would give us the ability to offer a max deal. Of course, you try to get cash and a pick(s) from the cavs as well.
     
  16. J.R.

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    Wrong in so many ways. No way do the Rockets have money to sign LeBron or Wade or any other 1st tier FA. You'd have to renounce half the team to even have a chance at signing one of them and even then it's still slim to none. They will all recieve better offers elsewhere.
     
  17. NotInMyHouse

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    They actually won't have the payroll for Wade or James next season. Not if they keep that core your are referring to intact.
     
  18. zaam

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    You might enjoy some reading.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=168495&highlight=2010+free+agency+myth

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=179897&highlight=2010+free+agency+myth
     
  19. Pull_Up_3

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    lol WOW
    NO WAY IN HELL can you keep landry yao scola and brooks AND THEN BRING in a max player in lebron or wade lol thats just funny
    and i never said yao wasnt coming back im saying its not for sure he will stay healthy or get injured again decreasing his minutes is a good way to try to prevent that
     
  20. morpheus133

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    This has been covered in depth in other threads, but the basic summary is that if Tmac is not traded the Rockets will NOT have the money to sign a max level player. The amount that will be available for the rockets to sign a free agent this off season after the salary cap is lowered will not be comparable to what other teams will be able to offer by a fairly wide margin.
     

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