I keep hearing every where that this guy is going to bust. I personally hope not and do not think so. I wonder however how will he do against other skill centers like Tim Duncan. Do you guys think that he will fare well, I realize that we are going to have a dynamite team so it might not matter that much. But I would like to believe that he can be a franchise type center. Those, "in the know", seem to think that he will be fine. I mean guys like Walton and Rick Barry who you gotta respect, are saying that he's the real deal what's your $0.02? Will this in fact be a collector's item?
Against centers like Duncan, he may get roughed up. But there aren't many Duncans in the league. Another thing some may want to consider is if Cato starts, Ming will probably go against back-up centers. Most starting centers are probably worse than Ming, let alone their back-ups. So the match-ups against the Duncans and Shaqs will be tough, but there will be some matchups against some Jason Colliers. Ok maybe they're not that bad. About the card, I'm no expert on card-collecting but I would assume it may become a very expensive card sometime, especially in China.
Yao doesn't have to dominate Shaq and Duncan, but if he does he is as far away from a bust that you can be. Even if he gets dominated by them, so does everyone else in the league. I would consider Yao a bust if by his third year he was not producing well and not getting better. I don't think this will happend though.
I think Ming will someday dominate Shaq and Duncan. It definitely wont be his rookie year though. You have to remember that Shaq only has about 4 more years left. Then its going to be a 25 year old Yao going up against guys like Olowakandi, Brendan Haywood, Kwame Brown and a very old Tim Duncan. I cant wait till that day comes and Rox fans will rejoice having a dominant center. Mr. B
When Yao is 25, Duncan will only be about 29 or 30. I don't think that qualifies as very old. But I get your point that Yao won't have much competition and could dominate the league.
he may not look that good in his first year, but he will be fine after that. in 2-3 he will be damn good.
ok..lets do the math. 28 teams..right? 2 dominant centers...Shaq..Duncan that leaves 26 other centers that Yao Ming will more than likely be better than...even in his rookie year.. just my .02
Hey guy's let this guy dominate Chis Antsey from the Aussie's,before you talk about him dominating Shack, and Tim Duncan.
People still don't get it. They keep saying that if Chis Antsey can dominate Ming, so can anyone. Well, I do believe there was a lot of double and triple teaming going on there during the Asian Games. And the fact that Ming revenged his lost to the Asssie's the 2nd time around doesn't get mentioned. If you throw a lot of double teams at Ming, he'll get lots of assists that's all. He's a good passer and with the Rockets team finishing the shots instead of the Chinese National Team, I think Ming's assist numbers will look pretty good. And if they don't double team, then I'd say that Ming will score quite a bit. And while that Chis Antsey fellow did score, I don't think it's all Ming's fault. Remember Ming was trying to help out on overall team defense. Trying to guard everyone because his teamates were not that good.
I think Ming will be a good center in three years. But he won't be a super star. He's slow and doesn't jump very high. His strength is not good either. He can be a Rick Smits or a little bit better. He won't dominate anybody. Domination in the center position needs extraodinary strength.
Its funny that you say he's slow, but every report I've seen is he is very fast for a big man. Also, he's 7 foot 5. When you don't even have to jump to shoot, would you? I think Yao just jumps for the height he needs, not his highest. So he won't dominate Jason Collier? Darn.
He is fast for a 7-5 guy, but he is very slow for a 7-1 guy. I agree he doesn't need to jump in shooting. He just need to wave his arms and let the opponent jump and jump until being tired. But, he needs explosiveness and strength to get into position and catch the ball. Right now, he can be easily denied the ball. Have you noticed he lost tip offs many times? What does that imply?
I didn't know that, but I'm not very worried. When did this happend and who did he lose them too? He may have been injured or the other guy could have been a 6-0 guy with incredible ups. Also sometimes the ref will make a bad toss. By many times, how does that relate to the number overall. If he won 90 and lost 19, that's ok. Besides, I'm more worried about other things than his tip-offs. Another thing is that he is young and can learn all of those things. If he is being denied the ball, it may include a double, which means a man is open. If he is not doubled, lob it up or give it to him and let him work. I don't get how he can be fast for 7-5 but slow for 7-1. How many 7-1 guys are fast. Most 7-1 guys seem big and slow.Shaq comes to mind as well as other centers like Vlade and the Suns center. Carrol has stated he moves like a 6-5 guy. I'm sure most 6-5 guys are faster than 7-1 guys.
Yao lost tip offs several times in the four country basketball tournament held in China last month. The percentage of him winning the tip offs is not good. It means his jumping ability and quickness is not good. How many times do you see Shaq lost a jump ball? Yao's biggest merit is his height which gives him timing advantage in shooting and shot blocking. His passing skills and shooting are also good. His weaknesses are his lack of explosiveness, speed, and strength. He can improve his strength but there is a limit because of body frame and muscle type. You will know what I am talking about when the season starts. He can be a good high post player, but will not be a dominant low post player or a dominant rebounder.
I seem to remember that Yao had a hurt hip sometime around then. I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure it was then. This could be why he couldn't jump high or have good quickness. I'm still trying to understand your "slow" accusation. If Yao is a high post player, that may be ok. I remember seeing some threads about running the offense through him. Although I would prefer a high rebound number from him, it will be fine if he can play the high post well. I read one where he would pass to Steve for an alley-oop. Tell me that not exciting.
His passing skills are very good. It sure will be exciting to see him passing from the high post to Steve or Cat for a dunk. He is slow. No doubt about it. There is not much people can do to improve speed or quickness drastically. Speed and Quickness can be improved a little bit by training or the use of illegal drugs. They are mainly determined by muscle types.
So, when did you determine that he was slow. Like I said earlier, if it was during the tournament, he kinda has a reason. Plus I fail to see how he could be slower than guys like Shaq, Divac, and TSakksjdfasfgjasf. (sp?) However, if he is slower, I guess that's ok. He will need to work on that. You wouldn't happend to see that play where he stole the ball from a GUARD and dribbled the ball from halfcourt and had a non-contested dunk, would you. (I figured a guard could catch up.)
