guess you dont check enough especially since I quoted this earlier in this thread. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=179697 1st page, 1 post, last paragraph It is KNOWN that the 76ers are not willing to give up something good just for taking one bad contract. Why would any GM do that anyway.......
We are up to date. You act as if we are starting new threads on it and/or passing it along as fact. It's a freaking random trade thread for crying out loud. No need to get so mad or defensive. It you want to attack a proposal, there are many more out there that are even more unrealistic then the one I posed.
OK, just because the Sixers WANT to unload both players does not mean they are going to be ABLE to. I doubt any team in the league has the players it would take to be able to absorb both EB and SD's contact in a deal! First off that is a HUGE amount of salary to take on in itself, not to mention adding someone like AI's contract into the mix. Here is a quote from Chad Ford's chat TODAY! Now Chad Ford is an NBA insider (ok stop laughing!) and he mentions the deal right here. I agree that it may be a long shot but my whole point is you should not dismiss this as a POSSIBLE deal....and you should diffently not jump on someone for bringing it up in discussion.
Dude you just quoted it. A major disaster for the sixers if they do it!! So why would they do it??? You guys are gonna have to add some major and I mean MAJOR sweetener to this deal if not take some ugliness from their side. While this is a random trade thread its also a realistic random trade thread. Make sense for both teams, not just for DM. And no worzel, I didnt misread it. Actually a few other here agree with what I wrote wondering why people just keep using one bad contract. It quite simply states that the 76ers are not giving AI for one bad contract. As quoted by the person above, from Chad, it would be a home run for us if this happened. A dumb fold by them. Its quite easy to understand. The 76ers are willing to trade him but not for one bad contract. Im sorry if any of you think this is a personal attack but im getting quite tired of these dream trades. This would be like a Memphis LA trade
OK, now your just being silly. Chad Freaking Ford (an NBA INSIDER) said in his chat today he believes the rumor has legs and yet you still won't concede the validity of the rumor!!!! Yes, it would be a GREAT deal for Houston! Yes, we understand YOU do not think it's enough (Chad Ford agrees)! That's great start to a debate on the MERITS of the trade but not the VAILIDITY of the rumor. In NONE of your post or anyone elses have I seen you give me a quote that states the Sixers want BOTH SD and EB included in an AI deal. You just point to the FACT that the Sixers would like to unload both SD's and EB's contract for T-Mac, but that does NOT necessarly mean in the same trade as AI. This is all YOUR speculation (which is fine) and OUR position is a SD/AI for T-Mac is enough of a valid rumor to bring up in discussion.
ESPN reporting that Amare has a 50% shot at being traded, also reporting that contract extension talks are in negotiation. I am guessing something has to give. Houston Gets: Jason Richardson Amare Stoudemire Phoenix Gets: Tracy McGrady Luis Scola Jermaine Taylor If we believe Amare is worth a max level contract he could probably be had. I dont think Phoenix will give him max money and he probably will bolt in the offseason to somewhere he can get it. The question is does this lineup make us a contender next year? Brooks/Lowry Richardson/Budinger Ariza/Battier Stoudemire/Landry/Hayes Yao/Andersen Thinking long term, when the Lakers fall out of thier prime in 3-4 years, can Yao/Battier/Richardson be turned into another solid piece to add to this core (Amare, Brooks, Landry, Lowry)? Thoughts?
Someone had reported that Amare already said he didn't want to play in Houston. Not sure where that came from or if its even reliable.
I don't think Amare can play without a great PG or an up-tempo system... AB is a great PG, just not an effective P&R player though. Yao will slow down that up-tempo system... so Amare won't be as effective.
I think Adelman can find a way to utilize Amare without a run and gun system. While Brooks is no Steve Nash, he can run the pick and roll play fairly well. Scola gets a lot of his production via the pick and roll as well as the pick and pop. I think Amare can be utilized in alot of the ways Scola is now but with less back to the basket post up and more cutting to the basket for easy dunks. I disagree with Morey's general lack of interest in height/length. While I think neither Scola nor Amare are good defenders, I think Amare's natural height/length and athleticism with have more of a defensive impact than Scola does.
If you have to get rid of Yao to adapt to Amare or someone like Bosh then you should do it. Rockets would never have to worry about Yao going down anymore and free up a large chunk of salary to build around another star. As much as I love Yao at some point enough is enough. We just spent an entire decade on the Yao saga and have nothing to show for it, I'd rather not go another decade without accomplishing anything.
So basically we should all just start posting crazy trades like the Memphis and LA trade because well realistically anything is possible right? No, I would just like to see some actual thought out trades and why it helps BOTH teams. Hoopshype is putting better trade scenarios then these trades for crying out loud. And I am quite certain a good number on this board is getting tired of seeing dream trades. I mean Tmac to the suns for Amare, lol. Whose being silly now. Thsee dream trades are all the same. As you say it possible? But also not really...
Here is the way I see it. If all you are giving up is Tracy(and his expiring contract) than you aren't going to be able to get an elite scorer/playmaker. His contract isn't worth that. In this deal, the Rockets are certainly better. You don't really give up anything that has helped you win games this year. If the two players worked out than you could keep them, but if they don't than they actually have two GREAT contracts that expire after the 2010-2011 season. This would make them ideal pieces to include in a sign and trade deal this summer. Would you do this deal this sign and trade this summer? Scola Murphy Dunleavy Rockets first rounder in the 2010 draft for Bosh (who would have just signed a max deal) If the money worked out (meaning on talent alone) would you do this: Tmac Scola First round pick 2010 for Bosh? That is essentially the deal I am talking about, except you get two players in Murphy and Dunleavy that could help you in the mean time. Here is something that I would like to ask the board, because I don't know. If the Rockets let the T-mac contract expire, would they be able to sign another player to a max deal?
If a legitimate NBA source posts/reports/chats about a trade rumor that involves the Rockets i believe it is discussion wothy. That does NOT mean every hoopsworld/bleacherreport has merit and should be posted, but when SEVERAL sources mention a AI/SD for T-Mac trade I thinnk it makes the rumor VALID. I just don't see how you can dismiss all the reports that this deal either was/is being discussed between the Sixers and the Rockets as trash just because YOU think the Sixers are getting robbed. Just so you know, I don't think the Sixers would do a SD/AI for T-Mac deal either. I DO however think they would do a EB/AI for T-Mac deal in a heartbeat, but I don't think the Rockets would! Again, with all the reports out there it is a legit rumor and my whole point is you should not jump on someone for posting it because you think it's a bad deal. Argue the merits fine....but I think we are all up-to-date on the rumors floating out there at this point.
Thanks, I didn't think so, but I wasn't sure. But, wouldn't this mean that you have to move T-mac before the deadline? Even if it is for a couple of solid players with movable contracts, and not an elite level player (If you will permit me to reference my previous post/posts)?
Read all the threads and you'll see they are some variant of your question. To trade or not to trade? That is the question. Whether tis nobler in the mind to let Tmac expire--- From the sound of things, Morey would rather upgrade now with his assets than go into the summer's gigantic crap shoot. We would have maybe $7 - $9 million of cap space this summer, MAYBE. We'd have to renounce some of our free agents to even get that much. The time to deal is now.
Lies. I've seen sources with that say Philly wants to unload both Brand and Dalembert's contract, but they won't be able to do both. Just one of the two. You just have to play the difficult poster in the thread though.
Who says they WON'T do it beside YOU! Chad Ford says he'd be surprised but thinks the rumor has legs. Stephen A. Smith says the same. Just say YOU really don't think the Sixes would do it, but others disagree - and be damned if they should be flamed for it!!!! You call people out for posting about the same rumors as Chad Ford, Stephen A. Smith, and others......do you write to them saying they should not post unrealistic proposals? Its being reported...get over it! On that note, I've seen SEVERAL reports that say the Sixers WON'T be able to get rid of BOTH SD's and EB's contracts so I guess you should also be flamed for posting unrealistic proposals!
