Yeah, that poster was a dick but is a lot better - I agree. I think he realized that it's really not nice to f with people for amusement. Although it still can be fun sometimes in small doses...
Nah, I made a true statement, that people took to mean one thing, because they are oversensitive....oh well... Yes, the people that are marrying their cousins and leaping to conclusions about a statement that they apparently are not capable of understanding. DD
Just curious. Do you hold the same opinion for fat people who eat unhealthy food everyday? Or people who smoke? Or people who drive recklessly? Or voted Bush twice for president? That either they are ignorant, or that they understand but they're just stupid ass people?
I don't know, why not start a thread, as none of those are remotely related to the problems caused by interwoven genetics like marrying your cousins. My standards are my own, if you KNOW that marrying your cousins is bad, then you are a fool for doing it. If you don't know about the genetic issues, then you are uneducated about it, and thus ignorant. Sorry if my answers are not PC and I don't care about hurting someones feelings....to me this is about as black and white an issue as they come. Who won? DD
Well, what do you think of the Rothschilds, or Darwin or Einstein? They all marriaged first cousins. It's not so cut an dry that you're a fool for doing this. If your family has a recessive gene for a genetic disorder, than yeah, you're going to have problems. But overall, the risks of a birth defeat for a in-bred couple is the same as that as a woman who has a baby at the age of 41. Should women at 41 not have babies? Are they fools for doing so? I'd like to hear your opinion on that. Also, there are advantages to in-breeding. If the family has an advantageous gene set - that it propagates that set of genes. Also, it allows an individual to pass on more of their genome, so there is an evolutionary incentive to inbreeding. Other advantages are cultural, ensuring the wealth of the family stays in the family, and that the family maintains it's culture. Also, because of that, divorce rates are lower. Finally, studies have shown that in-bred couples produce a lot more great-grand children - over 50% more. Does that mean I advocate in-breeding or would consider it myself? No. But that's because I come from a family that would find it distasteful and I carry on that in my personal values. But I am able to separate myself from my personal biases and see that hey, at times it might be logical. If you are in an isolated community. Or if humanity was nearly wiped out. There might not be a choice. And it might not really be all that bad of a choice in the end.
You can edit. I edit all the time. Just send Clutch a few dollars to help him keep the BBS running and after awhile, he'll give you contributing member status. It's not Rockets science, it's easy.
Actually, it seems like getting the "contributing status" label is considerably harder than that nowadays, if all the threads in the Feedback are to be believed.
No, you made a hasty generalization: That's a faulty generalization, and quite far from an honest, truthful statement. I guess FDR, Einstein, Bach, Edgar Allen Poe, Thomas Jefferson, and Charles Darwin aren't uneducated and ignorant. According to you, they are just "stupid" for marrying there cousins. If these people are stupid, according to you, I wonder what you define as being smart. http://www.nowpublic.com/health/cousins-should-be-allowed-marry-say-geneticists In fact, lets see how educated you are. Everyone in the world is a cousin with everyone else. No two people are more distantly related than 50th cousins (ever heard of your mRCA, African Eve?). http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/481090 In fact, America is the only Western nations that has certain states outlawing cousin marriages. Canada and Mexico don't. No country in the EU has laws prohibiting this. Maybe the obvious answer here is why are so many Americans "uneducated", "ignorant", or just plain "stupid".
This is your standard response every time you get stumped. There are numerous health risks that amount when one is clinically obese. The US is the fattest country but we seem to have ample education available. Your original post in this thread doesn't make much sense to me.
Stop being obtuse, eating unhealthily is a choice that doesn't bring genetically defective children into the world. Please stay in the arena, of the ignorant people that are marrying their cousings....or the stupid people that know the consequences and do it anyway. Then go educate yourself on the problems of marrying within your own family. Gosh I wonder how many of those people had the information about genetics at their fingertips? See, they would be classified as Ignorant of the problems associated with interfamily marriages. I am sorry you guys are having such a difficult time understanding the concept of ignorance. If someone does it and they don't know the ramifications of their actions then wouldn't you clasify them as ignorant? You are not calling them a dumbass, you are just saying they are IGNORANT of the ramifications. There is a difference, and hopefully everyone understands that.... DD
I agree. He likes to come in and say something and then when people pwnd him he tends to shy away from the argument. I also think the analogy to obese people is a good one.
"the stupid people that know the consequences and do it anyway"...You can use this same statement to refer to people who continue to eat unhealthy food in America. "Then go educate yourself on the problems of marrying within your own family."....Maybe you should educate yourself by reading the links that eckostylez provided.
Let me be clear, if you know the consequences and the higher rate of deformaty, and problems associated with inter family marriages and do it anyway, you are not ignorant you are a dumbass. DD
The point is many of these people marry their cousins due to culture. They must be doing something right because the divorce rate is significantly lower in first cousin marriages.
