Oh wow, I didn't see this. That's horrible for you to say honestly, and I don't know why you even would. Where DO YOU come from?
There's a very important difference between 'uneducated' and 'not very well educated'. To be fair though, I think you meant to say they are not very knowledgeable in the field of genetics, and that's probably true for a lot of them.
If Americans were educated, they'd know the defect percentages from random inbreeding are minimal. It's not like the floodgates will open if it isn't a social taboo. People do worse **** to themselves and their jewels. So if the couple is genuinely happy, who am I to stop them? A stubborn uninformed prick who likes to judge people?
Oh really? "Uneducated"??? I know several Indian/Paki people that have gone to good colleges in America (ex: UT/RICE) that eventually marry their cousin. You want to talk about "ignorant"? You should reread your post. Your quick one sentence posts in the D&D are just pathetic. You are the definition of a quantity over quality poster. At least 1/2 the stuff you post is just pure ignorant. (BTW I dont agree with the idea of marrying a cousin)
Wasn't a thread started in this forum like a year ago revolving around the scientific revelation that cousins in fact don't create birth defects?
No, you're just a creepy voyeur. *High fives group to gain their approval and remain in my comfort zone so I can stay complacent and not have to think for myself.* Where anyone is from in any part of the world, would you have made a "Becky" comment in real life when the husband is present?
Because it is not racist, there are uneducated people in Arkansas making the ignorant choice of marrying their cousins too. Just because the thread is about Pakistan, doesn't mean I am indicting an entire race of people, just the ignorant ones that are marrying their cousins. People like that.....that actually know better but do it anyway are worse than the uneducated people who do it out of cultural bonds. That is not ignorance it is stupidity. Some people are just too sensitive...SHEESH ! DD
We've heard this claim before that a poster is here trying a social experiment and is really above it all and are just prodding people to get them outside of their comfort zones. The results of these experiments have invariably been that the poster claiming to run the experiment is proven to be a bigger @sshole than the people they claim to be prodding.
Leaving aside your self-aggrandizement for a moment. What I am not seeing in your argument is a direct correlation that first cousin marriage is the cause of the problems you point out. Many of the problems you state may be due to other issues such as poverty and environmental factors. Especially when these problems are not unique to societies like Pakistan and Bangladesh that may or may not practice first cousin marriage. For that matter since first cousin marriage is often driven by a desire to concentrate family wealth and strengthen clan ties could cousin marriage be a sympton of other causes, such as poverty and xenophobia? This isn't a subject I've thought of much and there is an ick factor based on my own cultural bias but I'm not sure that the evidence is conclusive that this detrimental.
way to answer the question dude. I asked you what that guy who killed his mother had to do with your argument. It is clear you just threw in an example like that because he was pakistani even though it was completely irrelevant.
The mafia, they might condone marrying a distant relative to keep the mafia money in the family. Though there can be more specific financial and safety reasonings there. from an article someone posted earlier Tender and romantic the comment is, and truthful. Though I find that approach a little bit lazy. Might fall into love with your own sibling and parents. Might love your pet horse. Doesnt mean you let it "take you" and you act upon it. The Pakistani practice of marrying cousins, probably not THE base case for all their issues. Can be considered symptomatic of their overall approach.
I think it's more complicated than that. While in many societies the idea of marrying a cousin is gross, we forget that history wasn't always like that. In fact, each and every one of us are probably descended from ancestors who were probably cousins - i'm sure if we traced any human's bloodline back 100,000 years there would be many many instances of this. We forget that most of us live in a world that has many choices in our mates. This isn't true for everyone even today. naturally a great deal of it's cultural, and you can say these people are backwards in that they haven't kept up with the times. But modern society has it's own problems. So I am one to reserve judgment. I don't think this is a great practice, but I'm not going to condemn anyone either.
I would add that the person Sishir mentioned has done a pretty good job of changing the kind and the quality of his posts after a metamorphosis.
You made a hasty generalization while spouting superfluous ignorance. Learn to deal with your own fallacious arguments. So wait, are you retracting from your original assertion that people who marry there cousins are ignorant and uneducated? Now they are no longer ignorant and uneducated, but just stupid? If all you can provide is ad homs as perpetuated reasoning, then it is quite obvious who is really the ignorant and uneducated one here.
Why do you sound so angry? Do you feel personally affected by this issue? I tend to think that DD is right about the issue. People who marry their cousins are either ignorant and uneducated (if they don't know better) or they are stupid (if they should know better and still do it). One reason why I think a society should be allowed to outlaw it is that since there is a higher probability of serious health/mental issues due to this practice, then some health insurance (either public or a private one into which many people pay) has to pick up the tab. Thus, everyone else would have to pay for the ignorance or stupidity of a few. Therefore, it's not only about the free choice of the people who decide to marry/mate/reproduce in this case. However, there are very few countries in which sex/marriage between cousins is actually outlawed (I think South Korea and the Philippines are among them). That said, Pakistani people are obviously not the only ones engaging in this practice. Up to recent centuries, it was very common among European aristocrats (who would be supposed to be among the more educated people), almost rather the norm than the exception. A higher incidence of certain diseases among European aristocrats compared to the general population is traced to this practice.
