Haha, yeah. The contradiction of past and future opinion amused me as well. This is why I roll my eyes when folks are already writing off Jermaine Taylor just because he's not getting much playing time. You don't know anything about a late 1st or 2nd round pick until after their second or third years, really. Joey Dorsey still has potential, in my view, but his time is definitely close to running out.
Thats because people want instant satisfaction in the microwave society. I look at players in terms of development and 3 yrs down the road. I like to see what's new between yr 1 to 2 to 3 and generally if the guys hasn't flashed by year three, he's probably what he is unless the guy is really, really young. Those guys, you tend to give a little more time, or at least I do. I liked the picked and wanted him to finish the season as the starter once rafer went down. There were too many people spoiled by rafer and what he couldn't o that it was acceptable. I remember people talking about how great a defender rafer was and how he rant the team and all this jazz, then a yr or so later he's bought out and coming off the bench. I think alot of people fall in love with our players despite their flaws and i guess thats part of fandom. I tend to reserve judgement.
Not really hilarious, the reaction to the Brooks pick was more about team needs. not that rafer was a world beater, but at the time the position of pf might have been at an all time low
Landry was a part of the draft. And the reaction on him wasn't much better than the one on Brooks. Scola was traded for in the same summer. So, yes, the overreaction on that night is hilarious, except to those especially sensitive people who lack a sense of humor and can't admit they were hilariously wrong.
landry was a second round pick, i don't remember people reacting particularly either way. I do remember people being upset that they took a point guard
Click and Read: http://bbs.clutchfans.com/showthread.php?t=131512&highlight=landry Now do you remember?
that thread wasn't bad at all through the first three pages, some people knew who he was and were like, "okay" as a matter of fact i'm surprised so many people knew who he was and his potential
leeb I will give you credit for being one of the first on the AB bandwagon. But to say you liked the pick at the time is revisionist history at best ... you need to quit hangin' with DD. From the draft day thread: Nothing wrong with being wrong, just be man enough to admit it. 99.6% of the BBS was.
I don't mind but a lot of this discussion has tilted toward what Rockets fans thought of the picks at the time. That thread must be pretty interesting. I haven't had a chance to skim over it yet. Anyhow, I was hoping to get more thoughts as to why people voted the way they did. For example, if you voted that Brooks has not met Morey's expectations, what did Morey expect at the time of the draft that Brooks has not been able to achieve up to this point?
Alright. But it is funny to hear the criticism over "moneyball" during the draft, and then when they play well its because other guys brought them in.
I don't think late 1st round picks and 2nd round picks are "expectations." They are more properly described as "hopes" and "chances." My guess is that Daryly Morey's "expectation" for Brooks, if anything, is probabalistic: that the guy has a chance to succeed. Something like, judging by the performance of guys in similar draft spots, that chance is 0.1% superstar, 3% all star or that caliber, 12% decent starter, 20% regular rotation guy, 40% marginal NBA player, 25% washout with 3 years. Put it that way, I don't think Brooks or any draft pick can really exceed or fail to meet expectations any more than a six-sided die can fail to meet expectations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Brooks_(basketball) We need to get the red blazer and bow tie picture there, instead!
Morey is always upbeat about his players' potential.. Might even embellish their abilities and potential more than they really are. As any good GM should. All about maximizing value, both for the player's development and to sell high to other teams.
If I recall it right, I was in Mexico on vacation during the draft, staying on a little island, Isla Mujeres. After going to some trouble to get a place on the beach with Wi-Fi, one of my kids knocked a glass of water all over the laptop, like right after we got there, turning it into an expensive coaster.
Youre right until i had a close associate drop me about 30 games of cut ups. then i was like ok,its cool, Brooks seemed like a better player his jjunior yr and didnt flash as much, but when i started delving into it, i was down.
Which, interesting enough, is what happened to the 1st pick of that draft, more or less, at leat for now. So.. how did you like Isla Mujeres? I was there (there, and Cancun and Merida) in '05 and enjoyed the place. Big fan of the little ceviche places on the beach.
