[DallasNews] Mavs not good enough for title;Let trade rumors begin

Link, please.

 

The spurs look little by little of getting it together the last spurs trade sceniro i heard was roger mason or michael finley for raja bell even if bell supposed to come back in march from wrist surgery who knows if he will be a little rusty

Yesterday there was a rumor about tashuan prince to the spurs but prince makes too much money

the perfect guy the spurs need sorry rocket fans is shane battier :grin: he would fit what the spurs need help at right now and that perimeter defense and the 4 point shooting

Bogans has played really well starting and has been hitting 3's consistentially and did a good job keeping the ball out of durants hands the other night and made kobe take some tough shots has been playing great defense

imagine a defense lineup of Antonio Mcdyess,Tim Duncan,Raja bell,Keith Bogans, and George Hill

dang that would be tough to score

 

Tim Dunan should be in MVP talks espicially if spurs do catch up with the lakers and take over the number 2 seed per mavs losing to the thunder and spurs beating the bobcats

 

Whoops, my bad! My scan didn't see it. Sorry. (and don't ever do that!! )

 

true but spurs do it every year the play bad but somehow there almost there but yah there record has been bad against .500 teams

lost to the jazz 3 times for some reason 2 of the games were close games but we own those guys every year and the jazz havent won a series against the spurs since duncan was a rookie

both mavs games we lost couldnt have gne either way if mavs dont score 42 in the 4th quarter spurs win that game and if dirk dont have a carreer night that take overtime which we didn have ginobili or parker spurs win that game in OT

Denver was one I was mad at because were winning the whole game and nuggets couldnt miss in the 4th quarter

Boston was a good game also which we came back at the end but dumb 3 points by mason killed us and celtics won

bulls,portland,raptors and thunder were just games the spurs played and last

o well

 

It's strange that a team with a Big 5- Dirk, a former MVP still in his prime; Kidd, a future HOF; Howard, a former All-Star; Marion, another former All-Star; and Jason Terry, one of the best 6th men in the game- is unable to contend for a championship. 5 stars- still not a contender. Makes you wonder how we ever had a chance with just a Big 2...

 

Hahahahahaha....that is all.

 

Oh yeah. The obligatory: "Get er done Morey"

 

No he def. didn't help him out that way, but you don't see someone like Jeff Foster being potentially an all star the way Marion was with Nash because he was a monster on the boards.

Nash made him and that team better in more ways than one. He has lost a step and is not what he used to be but if you look at his scoring numbers before and after Nash the story will tell itself.

Marion was just another hope to hang onto for the Mavs to push themselves to legit title contender status. As long as Dirk is on the team, imo, they never will be. His style of play will not mesh with a scoring SG with both of them playing perimeter ball even if they manage to find one. He is not a true center that will bang for baskets down low in the playoffs, which will always be needed when that time comes.

Dallas will always be held to being the lower team of the Texas trio, even when the Rockets don't have any stars on the team. That's amazing, they're just unbelievably soft.

 

Who ever said Dallas was a championship contender? They're basically the same team as previous seasons but MUCH older now. If they couldn't win in their prime, they ain't gonna win now. To me, they're like the Utah j*zz of the early '00s: good enough for 50+ wins but no chance at the title.

 

Shawn Marion's stats with Steve Nash

Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
04-05 PHX 81 81 38.9 0.476 0.334 0.833 2.9 8.4 11.3 1.9 2.0 1.5 1.54 2.46 19.4
05-06 PHX 81 81 40.3 0.525 0.331 0.809 3.1 8.8 11.8 1.8 2.0 1.7 1.54 2.75 21.8
06-07 PHX 80 80 37.6 0.524 0.317 0.810 2.1 7.7 9.8 1.7 2.0 1.5 1.43 2.70 17.5

Shawn Marion's stats before Steve Nash

Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3 P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
00-01 PHX 79 79 36.2 0.480 0.256 0.810 2.8 7.9 10.7 2.0 1.7 1.4 1.63 2.67 17.3
01-02 PHX 81 81 38.4 0.469 0.393 0.845 2.6 7.3 9.9 2.0 1.8 1.1 1.78 2.64 19.1
02-03 PHX 81 81 41.7 0.452 0.387 0.851 2.5 7.1 9.5 2.4 2.3 1.2 1.94 2.57 21.2
03-04 PHX 79 79 40.7 0.440 0.340 0.851 2.7 6.6 9.3 2.7 2.1 1.3 1.97 2.57 19.0

Hope this can be clearly read as I can't do much with with the centering while I'm at work. But as you can see the FG% and rebounding significantly went UP when Nash came into the picture.

Marion before Nash came in was a nice player on a bad team that got his stats. Is it much of a coincidence that Nash recieved his MVP trophy's in PHX while Marion was getting his big stats along with Stoudamire and co.

In fact I did take a look at Marion's stats before I spoke up and even took the liberty of taking a peak at Nash's stats. He obviously had a big impact on everyone's play especially Marion's because Nash's assists went significantly higher when he made his way to PHX. Without Nash Marion would have been playing second fiddle to Amare and had his stats drop even lower with Amare being the franchise player at the time.

Nash's stats with PHX

Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
04-05 PHX 75 75 34.3 0.502 0.431 0.887 0.8 2.6 3.3 11.5 1.0 0.1 3.27 1.81 15.5
05-06 PHX 79 79 35.4 0.512 0.439 0.921 0.6 3.6 4.2 10.5 0.8 0.2 3.49 1.52 18.8
06-07 PHX 76 76 35.3 0.532 0.455 0.899 0.4 3.1 3.5 11.6 0.8 0.1 3.78 1.54 18.6

Nash at Dallas

Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
00-01 DAL 70 70 34.1 0.487 0.406 0.895 0.7 2.5 3.2 7.3 1.0 0.1 2.93 2.26 15.6
01-02 DAL 82 82 34.6 0.483 0.455 0.887 0.6 2.5 3.1 7.7 0.6 0.0 2.79 2.00 17.9
02-03 DAL 82 82 33.1 0.465 0.413 0.909 0.8 2.1 2.9 7.3 1.0 0.1 2.34 1.63 17.8
03-04 DAL 78 78 33.5 0.470 0.405 0.916 0.8 2.2 3.0 8.8 0.9 0.1 2.68 1.78 14.5


Nash undoubtedly made Shawn Marion the all star candidate every year he was there. And without him even as soon as he moved to Miami his ppg dropped to 15 from 17.5 and 21.5 the year before, that has to tell you a lot.

 

I saw a Erick Dampier & Josh Howard for Samuel Dalembert & Andre Iguodala trade, I forget the exact link. If this is true Dallas is the dumbest in the world for not pulling the trigger and therefore I believe it has to be false or philly was asking for more. Hope this does not go through if it is true.