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[Marc Stein] Houston Rockets could join Chris Bosh chase

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ctry2582, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. worzel gummidge

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    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q65
    http://sbrother.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/raptors-all-star-chris-bosh-not-going-anywhere/
     
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  2. Yetti

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    I was a firm believer of this fact but recently I have started to wonder!
    Morey and Adelman are becoming very particular about the type of players they are looking for and there is a possibility that Yao could be the odd man out. Only the other evening I heard a commentator say that many teams have moved away from the traditional tall center.

    Yao is a traditional Center, who plays well in the half court game, with much ability and who is willing to pass the ball. Hope things work out for him and the team. :p
     
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    The biggest factor is how well he plays next year coming off of injury.
     
  4. jopatmc

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    The biggest factor is Yao is the most skilled big man in the game and he is from the most populous nation on the planet, China. Yao's value far exceeds 20/10. It has to do with money, money, money, and power, power, power, as Yao/China/Houston continue to pull on superstar talent to come here, build a dynasty, and make the big Yen.
     
  5. LabMouse

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    I think that the biggest factor is how money the rockets have to pay him for the next contract. He would likely still be a good player, but for how long? You clearly do not want to pay him the max contract, but then what is an ideal contract for a player like Yao? I think Morey should already have an idea right now.

     
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    I think many people are forgetting that Sacramento also had a "traditional" type big man - VLADE DIVAC. He was always the last player back, but they made it work (got to the conference finals). Vlade was a good shooter from the perimeter and was an excellent passer thus making Yao very comparable, except Yao has a much better offensive game.

    Yao will not need to score 20-25ppg for this team to be successful. He can easily score anywhere from 13-17ppg and we'll be just fine. And coming off the injury, i'm sure RA's gonna use him like he used Vlade.
     
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    In my worthless opinion, all the questions regarding Yao's ability to fit with this team are moot. He will fit in, even if he has to play only the 1st and 4th quarters. Ram will make sure of that.

    My only question is how will Yao perform coming back from major reconstructive foot surgery. Yao's next contract with the Rockets will be based on his 1st year back post-surgery.
     
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    I think everything depends on performance. If Yao comes back and is clearly a shadow of his former self post-injury then clearly future negotiations have to take that into account. The flip side of that coin is that if he plays well then he would be paid accordingly.
     
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    I think you're right about Yao's perimeter shooting and passing skills being valuable in the system, but Yao is prepared to make a much bigger contribution than Vlade ever could.

    The biggest advantage is the low post option he gives you. Playoff games are much more half court intensive than the regular season. You need to be able to get the ball to a post scorer at key moments, either for him to get a good shot or create something for others. The issue with Yao is getting the ball to him, but once he has it, he is way more efficient.

    A post up scorer was the biggest weakness of those Sacramento teams. Vlade could do little more than try to flop and Webber was content to take 15 foot jump shots instead of powering his way to the hoop. If they had someone they could go to on the block consistently, they might've made it over the hump.

    To the poster insisting that Yao will be the odd man out: I think Morey's effort to bring in young athletic players has more to do with a strategy for stockpiling assets, rather than a change in basketball philosophy. If healthy, Yao is still the key player to this team winning a championship. He might have a reduced role, but he's still going to be the centerpiece and very likely a 20/10 players.
     
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    absolutely! Adding more athleticism would make Yao that much more dangerous. We would have the possibility of AB, a new wing-player who can create shots, and Yao in the lineup... it'll be extremely difficult for players to double up on Yao.
     
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    The problem going forward is that Vlade didn't take up franchise player level salary cap room. Yao can absolutely help the Rockets, but there are major questions on whether he can stay healthy consistently, and you don't want to pay franchise player level money to some one playing the brad miller/vlade divac role.
     
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    Some people are forgetting how well Bosh can shoot the 3 ball because he is not shooting it this year since Bargnani is hanging out at the 3 line all the time. But Bosh has tremendous range and is a threat from the perimeter. He has way more shooting range than either Landry or Scola, with the ability to put the ball on the floor at the 3 point line and finish with the dunk at the rim. The very idea of putting him on the floor with Yao and Brooks creates so much space for our offense that there is absolutely no way that one of the 3 of them doesn't absolutely torch somebody every night. The defense is going to have to help on somebody and if they leave Yao alone in the middle with Brooks and Bosh outside, he is going to eat someone's lunch down there. The days of Yao scoring 30 in the low block are not gone. They've just been delayed for a little bit.
     
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    i totally agree. if we could just manage to get a trade done for him without sacrificing landry or brooks, all we'd need to do is go out and get a legit SG next season.
     
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    My ideal scenario for acquiring Bosh is also coupled with the realization we will have to give up one of Brooks or Landry.

    I think Colangelo would see Brooks as his type of PG. But I do believe Carl has a higher ceiling.
     
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    If Morey lands Bosh without giving up Tmac's contract, he can take back bad contracts in any trade for T-Mac (say Iggy and Brand/Dalembert).

    Landing Bosh means Morey would reach his goal for 2010...landing one of the primetime free agents. The only disappointment is that it's not LeBron or Wade...haha
     
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    I'm probably in the minority here but I can not see why anyone would want Chris Bosh.


    He is just another one of these players with nice looking stats who has never won anything!
     
  19. daernoth

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    So was Pau Gasol before being traded to the Lakers or Garnett before going to the Celtics.
     
  20. J.R.

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    You were saying the same thing about Pau Gasol [when in Memphis] werent you?
     

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