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[Marc Stein/ESPN] Rockets philosophically opposed to buyouts

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets934life, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. Asian Sensation

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    He screwed us over last year and he screwed himself over this year for opening his diva lips. Do you know how much $22+ Mill a year is? That's like almost $90,000 A DAY. Something tells me he's okay. Let him rot away. PS he used to be my fav player.
     
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  2. Francis 4 ever

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    If guess we owe him 11 million more for this season and he will get an MLE deal next season. He wouldn't likely sign a multi year deal at that level- more likely a one year showcase on a contender for a longer more lucrative contract.

    Let's look at Hedo T's contract a player of similar skill (currently) and of similar age.

    Hidayet Turkoglu

    $9,000,000

    $9,800,000

    $10,600,000

    $11,400,000

    $12,200,000

    Based off of this T-mac should consider a buyout for 7.5 million. He should also consider he will be one season older so the contract would likely be one year shorter losing him a future potential year of earning (which for Hedo is a hefty 12 million).

    Of course this is all just speculation.


    also someone ITT said that his contract is still being paid 80% by insurance. Is this true? Source? Sounds completely ridiculous
     
  3. pmac

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    I don't think it has to do with anything petty (I hope), like not wanting to see him sign somewhere else or not "giving in".

    I think Morey believes that the Rockets will get more value out of Mcgrady's contract at the deadline or in a S&T deal than the small amount of money Tracy would be willing to concede in a buyout. If he thought Tracy had zero value he would have probably bought him out.
     
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  4. bbjai

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    I think the issue was tmac was he wants to play but we don't have time for him because his not ready. If we don't trade him by the deadline his going to push to play because he needs to! And coincidentally his timeline says he"ll be more game time ready then and be ready to co tribute. Whether he plays is another matter but thats the only possible conclusion at the deadline. Play,rot and s&t
     
  5. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    I never really understood this argument. If he was hurt the other team would have caught it on the physical. If they were just trading for the expiring deal well they would be happy he was injured since insurance picks up the salary.

    It might have been disrespectful to the franchise, but I don't see how it hurt anything other than feelings by him coming out.

    Plus I wouldn't trust the rockets medical staff. I think they let yao play on a broken foot.
     
  6. kevtse

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    I can't wait for the Wade + Yao combo~
     
  7. MambaJoe

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    Buying him out is a bad decision. Though some of us would want him to find a new home and succeed, it will be a hard task for Morey.

    Close to the trade deadline, some teams would be desperate and start throwing deals towards us. Hopefully we can get a very good talent for him.

    Hopefully a young talented big man in McGee or Anthony Randolf. But hopefully Morey can pull out a Bosh trade soon too.

    What we need is a very talented swing man. That would be great. Iggy, Kevin Martin, or even Danny Granger would be a great deal. Every single one of those guys would fit well into this team.

    If we acquire one of those guys, we won't see Ariza making horrible decisions any longer. That way, it would bump Ariza's scoring option down.

    Then hopefully we can get a package with Bosh in it. Most likely we would have to include Landry in the deal. But Bosh is better, more well rounded, younger and a good player we can build around. Having Bosh along with one of those star swingman, along with the cast of great, hardworking role players, this team is on its way back to the short list of contenders.

    Building around Bosh is a much better option than building around Yao. Though Yao bring more money to Les, Bosh brings more wins.

    With the exception of building around Bosh instead of Yao, this team will be much more successful under the reign of Bosh. Plus adding a talented swingman, you can count this team making it past the first round.
     
  8. Sidarma

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    My calculator says 60243.972602739
     
  9. Hball

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    Wow... Rockets might not even get any thing in return for mcgrady, should have just let him play, atleast teams would know if he's still capable of playing at a high level.

    Adelman dropped his value even lower by not wanting to play him, because of that teams will lowball morey and just wait for him to be bought out imo.

    I just don't think his contract alone is enough to persuade teams to give up thier best asset's for a player that's a question mark playing wise and future wise.
     
  10. Entropy

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    They can lowball Morey all they want. Teams that want Tmac want him for his expiring contract. Otherwise they remain stuck with the bad contracts already on their roster for the next few years. Morey has all the cards. Worst case scenario is no trade for Tmac happens and we let his contract expire, re-sign all the guys we want to keep next year. Thats not a bad scenario at all.
     
  11. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    you must not understand that teams most likely interested in him are not trading for him as a player but as a huge contract that expires next year.

    his value as a player would only be valuable to a contender since he'll be expiring at the end of the season.

    the salary dump is alive and well in the NBA. Thank this ****ty economy.
     
  12. badgerfan

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    Insurance doesn't pick up all of the salary, just part of it.

    It wasn't just the Rockets' medical staff either. T-Mac was evaluated by at least one well respected outside specialist who couldn't find anything wrong with him either.
     
  13. Lynus302

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    DM can do whatever he wants. He is god. At least in NBA GM terms.
     
  14. Hball

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    You have some teams that may also want him as a player along with his expiring, considering the assets they would have to give up to match salaries.

    Some teams may want to know if he can still sell tickets or help their team make the playoffs like the bulls or miami with wade ect.
     
  15. Invisible Fan

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    He could've informed management for them to know what chips they were bargaining with.

    It seems like he could've held off microfracture at any time.

    Laying the turd on everyone was his passive aggressive way to say that he didn't want to be traded.
     
  16. badgerfan

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    There are a lot of unanswered questions about McGrady's abilities coming back from the surgery. In the games he has played he's looked downright mediocre--no lift, no explosiveness.

    If he had any stature as a player right now we wouldn't be talking about the need to send a genuine asset like Scola along with McGrady to Toronto to get Bosh.
     
  17. pippendagimp

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    hahahaha F U stacy!!!!!!! :)
     
  18. jwayne

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    It isnt about not letting TMac play elsewhere, it's about business... buyouts dont make sense... Why give up something for nothing? There is always going to be someone that will be a trade partner and something will make sense.
     
  19. dexkk

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    B4 Trade Deadline
    Morey: No Buyouts! If teams want Tmac, give me the right offers!

    After Trade Deadline
    Morey: So Tmac, wanna negotiate a buyout?
     
  20. JLOBABYDADDY

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    Or you just drive the dang Mustang
     

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