Maybe if he were on the court which, given his history, he frequently is not able to manage. 51 games last season, 70 the season before, then a highlight... he managed 75 games the previous year, then fell back to 32 and 66 games played the two seasons before that. Corey averaged just under 59 games per season over the last 5 years. In short, not a good history. Haven't we had to deal with enough injury prone players for a while? Shouldn't we trade for players with a good history of staying on the court? That's putting aside whether he has talent or if he would fit.
Tracy McGrady- not good enough - nowhere like he used to be - not adaptable enough to play within the game of our Rockets - sent home for the rest of the season so that he won't be a continual pain in the neck or uposet any Locker Room chemistry. Recovering from surgery which can be career ending, untested and regected by his team. Who on earth would trade for this player, unless to create cap space?
Guys can be stuck on bad teams. It happens far too often. I'm more concerned with getting guys with talent who can stay on the court. Maggette hasn't proven that he can.
If your stuck on a "bad team" every year of your whole entire career, with players being traded, drafted, and shuffled, then you have to think.....hmmmm maybe its "him" who is a bad player. Good players get their team over the hump. Especially when 8 teams make the playoffs and you went to the playoffs how many times in the past decade? Knock Mcgrady for his 1st round exits if you must, but what if you just never even make it to that stage?
I was thinking along the lines of this trade. Maybe even see if Philly, in shaking things up, will swap Butler for Iggy (IF Philly wanted to get out from Iggy's long-term contract, as Butler's contract is up in 2011, same as Dalembert's).
A lot of that depends upon your role on the teams.....and what the team acquiring you is counting on you for. Maggette is not a lead player, he is an uber efficient role player...... The knock about his health is viable, it is just a worthwhile risk to me being that none of the injuries has been major. Guys who attack the rim like him tend to miss a few games a year.....but the fact that he is STILL attacking the rim tells me a lot about his competitiveness. That is how he plays....a lot of the time....and plays it well. And just look at those stats 54% FG 18+ppg 28mpg Outstanding. DD
I tend to remember him being the main guy for the Clips with Elton Brand for quite some time. Odom was more of the 6th man on that team. Maggette was their go-to-guy. I mean he was avg around 20+pts a game. When that never worked out for about 7 years, he became the role player you see today.
I agree, and he made that transition as did Odom, Tmac has not been able to.... We don't need him to be THE guy, just an efficient one of the guys. DD
You make some good points but really, it all comes down to his contract. Its just ugly. When you evaluate guys around the league, you want guys that out play their contract, not the other way around. Maggette, is a decent player in the league, and hasnt had the best of luck landing in "good" situations. There was a time when I liked what he brings to the table, but I just dont see him being a good fit on this squad. Just personal opinion. But on the brightside, I love some of the points you made about Jamison, and I'm on board with that.
I like the idea of us getting Caron Butler and Big Z, Washington getting TMac, and Cleveland getting Jamison. You'd probably need to sweeten the deal for the Wiz though. We'd have to send them Budinger and the Cavs could send them Hickson.
Hasn't Cleveland already stated that the only way they trade Big Z is if he is bought out and signs back to Cleveland? He wants to be a Cav for life.
Ohhhh...had only read that as a rumor but it would make sense yet i'd still do the trade because the cap space and LT levels will be there while getting a quality player like Butler.
DD, the guy has a contract paying $9 million this season and going for 4 years. He's averaged under 59 games per season the last 5 seasons. Yet you think he's "worth it." With that history, I disagree. If it were a smaller/shorter contract, it's a different story. Maybe.
Actually he was not sent home by the team. Morey told him he could stay on but T-Mac decided it would be too much of a distraction to the team and asked and received permission to leave. I understand what you're saying though. I'm not sure how Morey can demand an All-Star in return since Adelman has basically said that T-Mac is no longer T-Mac.
I have been a Maggette fan for some time. While I know that Ariza has received a lot of criticism lately, I see their game being very similar. With the huge difference being that Maggette knows who he is and Ariza is figuring it out. For example, I believe that they both are very efficient when they are attacking the basket. This is what Maggette does efficiently. However, if you had Maggette shooting 3s and jump shots, his percentage would suffer as Ariza is suffering. If Ariza focused on attacking the rim, I thing he could have Maggette like success. You said it in your first sentence, "A lot of that depends upon your role on the teams.....and what the team acquiring you is counting on you for." Maggette is not a lead player and nor is Ariza, but I think Ariza could give us Maggette type efficiency if he was limited to attacking the basket as oppose to shooting jump shots. Maybe that will happen once we get a lead player.
Since Arenas is suspended indefinitely... Rockets trade Tmac Gets Caron Butler and Brad Miller (expiring/center) Chicago trades Brad Miller and Kirk Hinrich Gets Tmac Washington trades Caron Butler Gets Kirk Hinrich May require a little tweaking and draft picks being traded but could work as the foundation of the trade.
