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Greatest Lyricist in Hip-Hop?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by IROC it, Jul 21, 2002.

  1. Nutcracker

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  2. Rocket River

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    no offense taken
    I'm quite sure you listen to
    somethings that I find to be truly crap

    Rocket River
     
  3. drapg

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    did you happen to read the lyrics for:

    Dear Mama
    Brenda's got a Baby
    Can you get away
    changes
    life goes on
    keep ya head up

    its not all quite so "classless"...
     
  4. IROC it

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    Nas does have one the best flows around BTW... he's sort of a purist like those old school guys.

    Also, no one I mentioned was about the bling bling rollin' on twenties...

    That stuff is purely southern... the originals of course were all east coast.

    Now ICE CUBE is probably the greatest west coast lyricist, if it weren't for the constant filth... but ya' know Too Short in my signature wasn't Mr. Clean either.;)

    Scarface is the best Houston flow man... If you like gumbo rap and suth'n steez then Ludacris has a definite uniqueness about him...

    Glad no one (hardly) mentioned P-Diddy or Jay Z...

    I agree about outkast though... tough lyricists.

    Thanks for the responses!!
     
  5. haggard

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    What about Global Village?
     
  6. tbagain

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    You may not like the music I enjoy, but I have a valid criticism of people like Tupac Shakur. He should villified, not immortalized.

    All you need to do is look at the murder rates in the black community during the late '80s and '90s to see that glorifying guns and gangs was beneath contempt.

    The popularity of the "gangster life" seems to be fading away, and black on black murder is down 50% in the last 5 years. I know that nobody can show any solid relationship between violence and music, but given the aforementioned circumstances, Tupac certainly did not help the situation.
     
  7. IROC it

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    We're really addressing who handled the lyrics the best, not the one who spoke of the best possible peaceful utopia while delivering them.:rolleyes:

    As I originally said, and can probably say on behalf of most, we don't always
    Moving right along, keeping it light...


    "We are the world, we are the children...":D
     
  8. ESource

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    Michael Jackson! ;)
     
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    Talib Kwelli.

    It's not even close. He's a rapping Bob Dylan.
     
  10. Bailey

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    Michael Franti was the rapper for the Disposable Heroes of HipHoprisy... man I loved the song Television (The Drug Of The Nation).

    He now has a live band called Spearhead ( http://www.spearheadvibrations.com )

    I've definitely got a lot of time for anything he does.
     
  11. AstroRocket

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    Nas definitely belongs up here. He's gettin back into it too. One Mic was classic.

    All I need is one blunt, one page, and one pen
    One prayer - tell God forgive for one sin
    Matter fact maybe more than one, look back
    at all the hatred against me, **** alla them
    Jesus died at age 33, there's thirty-three shots
    from twin glocks there's sixteen apiece, that's thirty-two
    Which means, one of my guns was holdin 17
    Twenty-seven hit your crew, six went into you


    You gotta like Ludacris' off the wall brand of lyrics too

    I got people scared as **** like when condoms break
    Or how your heart deals with eatin' eighty pounds of steak
    So put your belly on a plate and watch your weight
    You frostin' like a flake and Ludacris feels grrreat!


    And there's a reason why Will smith is called "candy"

    I know the deal, I talked to Mary Jane and she said
    Your ex-boyfriends Mike and Ike are both Lemonheads
    I ain't tryin ta player hate girl
    I know That you go with Bazooka Joe
    Now you know he don't love you like that
    He tryin ta get a Reeses piece of the Kit-Kat
    Really hun, what he need is a jawbreaker
    Cause I'm the one that'll love you baby Now and Later
    Be my Peppermint Paddy with a Hundred wishes
    An I'll be your Hershey daddy with a hundred kisses
    Get the Twins M&M's, they booked us outta flight today
    Me an you can Starburst to the Milky Way
    I don't care what it cost, girl a Hundred Grand
    We could snicker all night at my Jolly Ranch
    Just me and you, or call your friends up too
    Cause I could get my boys Babe Ruth and Charlston Chew


    :)
     
  12. moestavern19

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    Go Listen to Growing Pains by Lucacris and Fate Wilson. Great Lyrics. I do think Cris has some pretty sweet lyrics. Even though he takes the whole superiorty complex to a new level.
     
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    ironically tupac and biggie

    jay-z gets mad props
     
  14. HOOP-T

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    Tupac without a doubt.

    Biggie was good. I actually liked Mace too....didn't he go into the Church as a preacher and quit the rapper lifestyle?

    I heard that somewhere.
     
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    yes! I loved Mase too, his slow style was awesome...

    and yes he did become a preacher... he was on BET's "106 & Park" a few months ago and has done a complete 180!!! He denounces every action he ever did as "Mase" and cringes to even talk about his rap career. Everytime the hosts tried to talk about the old Mase, he would get noticeably upset and change the topic... He now goes by his real name, Mason Betha. He even wore a suit to the show, gotta be a first on "106 & Park"! It was kinda sad to see my favorite rapper basically say he hates everything about "Mase" and that "Mase" is dead to him... he's so holier than thou now that its kinda sickening!
     
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    Ludacris

    crude, ignorant, ridiculous, ......and funny!

    WORDWIDE hus-suh-las make that dough
    Work that tip
    Get rid of evidence
    Move that Brick
    Keep a D-Eagle with an extra clip
    Say it ain't so, sucka yeeeeah

    Act like I just do rap
    How you gonna act like I just ain't strapped?
    How you gonna act like I don't push lax?
    Black El Dorado FIFTH WHEEL ON BAAAAACK
     
  17. Cold Hard

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    Nas, GangStarr/Guru, 2 Pac, Big Punisher, Scarface, Q-Tip
     
  18. HOOP-T

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    Ooops, I misspelled.....it's Mase. Anyway, thanks for the info. I'd love to see that interview.

    I wonder if all this is sincere with him. Probably is.....

    But guys like Deion Sanders are harder to believe.
     
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    I don't think you could really place a "greatest" label on any of the lyricist. There's so many out there that bring so many different things to the table. Time periods come to play as well. Some I like are: Common, Talib, Mos Def, Eminem, Nas, KRS, Redman, Method Man, Guru, Rakim, Canibus (straight battle head), Dialated Peoples, Tribe Called Quest, Scarface, Ludacris, Company Flow, J5, Busta, Pharoh Monch, etc....

    How about a branch off of this topic, instead of starting a new one. Which MC rivalries stand out the most to you? I remember the Canibus vs LL Cool J one. That was pretty sick, even though I think LL would get murdered in a freestyle against Can, it was still good. KRS has had some good ones, most notably his one with Nelly now. I think he ripped Nelly a new one in his new song.
     
  20. AstroRocket

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    LL vs Cannibus was pretty good. 2nd round KO and Return of the Ripper are classic battling beats. LL showed he had a few battlin' skills with that one. Although, I agree with you, Cannibus would absolutely tear LL up in a freestyle battle. Nas vs. Jay-Z started out okay, but eventually Jay-Z got blasted and went out wimpering like a little punk.

    But the best battle going right now is definitely Dre, Eminem, Timbaland, and Xzibit vs. Jermaine Dupri. Dre started it all really. I mean, they all had beef before, but Dre was the first to put it into lyrics. I guess his spit was okay. But then JD came back, ripped Dre and Timbaland, and called out Eminem. Then Dre gave Xzibit the greelight to come hard with a hilarious and pretty tight rip on JD. Its just starting to get good too. I hope some more So-So-Def guys get in on it. I'd love to see Bow-Wow get clowned like a little b****.
     

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