SG/SF combos - What do we want from these positions?

Also remember all those passes he was doing were doing Pre-season. The Rockets were playing against guys who probably wouldn't normally play. Can't really see too much into that

 

They show what he is capable of when he gets comfortable and is asked to do these things.

Right now he is a finisher, a closer, and that will be his primary role, but eventually teams will try to stop him by doubling or paying more attention to him and he will show you doubting thomases what a good passer/creator he is.....you will see.

DD

 

you're being too literal here...is battier literally a shot blocker because he gets about one a game and can do it? I guess so, but he a "shot blocker"? No. We all know what a shot blocker is refering to within the NBA and it's not battier. We know what a creator really means as well, but DD just wants to be right!

 

No, I just don't get constrained to one way of thinking as there are multiple iterations of what you need to win basketball games.

A guy that can create off the bounce is good, so is one that can create off a screen etc...

Any time you get a wide open look for your teamate, in a good spot, is creating.

You guys need to think a little more about your definitions, or rather what it takes to build a winning basketball team.

And as Rocket fans you have plenty of history to look at......which should help.

DD

 

this.

 

Now he's a closer? He's a role guy who can shoot, dunk, and make the occasional drive DD, that's what he is, nothing wrong with that in this system. Hes not even that great as a finisher and may never be.

What's the connection here, you can't be overrating him just based on what you've seen on tv.....Let's play DD and chase: 6 degrees of separation

 

I am looking at what he is developing into.....ahead......not today.......what we are building...rather what Morey is building....

I am thinking in 3D, you guys are thinking in cartoon drawings.



DD

 

Why do we need Bud then, we have plenty of creators on this team:

Chuck- creates by taking up space
battier -creates by setting timely picks
Ariza- creates by bricking shots, therefore creating off rebounds
cook- creates playing time for others by sacrificng his

We need to flip some of our creators for an all-star!

 

LOL - nice try, but clearly you are not thinking about the many different ways to win at basketball.

Oh well.....good luck with your linear thinking.

DD

 

I think we need the trade of Phili (Iguodala/Dalembert) to go down, it would give us a legit 2 guard in AI, and we also get some size and length inside with Dalembert ....

Line up 09/10
Brooks/Lowry
Iguodala/ Taylor
Ariza/ Chase
Scola/ Landry
Dalembert/Hayes, Andersen

PS. i also believe we need to trade Battier to free up time for Chase(SF), Taylor(SG)(ala rafer alston last yr. to start aaron), I think its crucial to develop both of this guy's to make the bench that much stronger...

-RB

 

the cook and ariza examples may have been silly, but battier and chuck's all fit under you're definition of a creator. If you apply it to one you gotta apply it across the board. If bud making a bounce pass that leads to a score is creating, why cant a battier pick that leads to an open shot or drive not be creating? Or when chuck shields off a defender with his body to create an open lane for brooks? All 3 of those contribute to a basketball win by creating opportunities for others.

I can accept your definition if you're willing to apply it fairly and equally.

 

My definition is that there are TONS of ways to win in the NBA, tons of definitions for what type of CREATOR you need, or what a particular team needs.....

And it is not so cut and dried.

It is like arguing with the Lowry boys who think a pure PG is the only type of PG...when our own Rocket history shows otherwise.

Oh well.....not everyone gets it.

DD

 

This! Go for it DD, we'll have the last laugh on this issue next season, if CBud allowed to blossom and is not foolishly traded.

 

You sir are clearly an enlightened and intelligent poster.

:grin:

DD

 

iggy is a 3...

 

Christie was a point forward all the way back to his college days. Christie allowed bibby to be more scorer when he got hot and could initiate the offense. Christie was better than battier in every possible way.

Although king backstabber is wrong alot, i agree with him on chase except for the all star thing. He can create in motion similar to Rip. Rip wasnt a creator in the t-mac mode, but when he came off picks, when a guy chreated, he could make the proper pass or continue the curl to the basket for a jumper or layup. Thats creating a play, just a different create. trevor nor shane can create that much.

 

Iggy fits the criteria PERFECTLY, hurry Morey!

 

Iggy plays both, plays 2 when Brand is in the lineup and 3 when Young is in at PF.

 

so does battier and trevor...yet here were are searching for a true SG because they arent...Iggy works as a combo, but if the point is to finally get a true SG, then he's not it.