[Philly Inquirer] 76ers have to knock over Rockets with young talent (UPDATE: 1/13)

Take them all and pay the luxury tax... Do we want to win?

 

nice post and great insight.

 

I concur with Bima. Lets remember that Morey value his guys highly, some say excessively so-- Ryen Russilo and Ric Bucher discussed on a podcast how Morey's famous around the league for making "bad trade proposal" because he values his guys so highly.

I doubt the Rockets give up Battier in order to get Iggy and swallow Dalembert's salary. Not enough of an improvement to warrant the spending. Now, this might mean that an Iggy deal does not get done, but I suspect Morey's fine with that. He seems to be the type to prefer doing nothing to doing something stupid. The worst mortal sin in Morey's world is not losing out on a guy, but getting a guy on an excessive contract. It's just how he operates, whether you like it or not.


About Dalembert: I doubt Adelman has much use for him. I saw him in the latest Philly/Clips game operating in the high post and the Philly homer announcers were practically laughing at how bad he was operating in the Princeton-style offense as he threw the ball away leading to a "pick 6" fast break. Dalembert is not only no Brad Miller on offense, he's not even Chuck Hayes (who is a pretty good passer).

The guy is the definition of unskilled stiff on offense. Exhibit A: His career TO% is 17.5-- and this season it was 22.4. Friggin LEGENDARY numbers. Yao Ming, who is known as being turnover prone, but is so because he operates in the crowd so much, has a career TO% of only 14.5.

How do you turn the ball over at a legendary level when you don't even have the responsibility to score?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dalemsa01.html


I think Dalembert also led the league in goadtending for a few seasons, too.

Frankly, I think Adelman would rather play any of the current front court guys-- Chuck, Scola, Landry or Andersen instead of playing Dalembert.

 

Seconded.

A welcome dose of reality to my dream of Iggy in a Rockets uniform.

 

Like the Lakers...

 

another really good post about how bad dalembert is on offense and how bad his contract really is.

...about morey valuing his guys "too much". maybe he was the only guy who valued his guys the right amount considering the rockets record thru this extremely tough start of the season.

 

The Lakers are the NBA Champions. That doesn't mean that I want to take up big contracts.

 

We all need to thank god for the financial crisis (If you were affected, just think of the Rox)

 

Good point. If the Rockets come out as championship contenders due to the economy, I might have to rethink my view that President George W. Bush was one of the worst Presidents in American history. If we win multiple championships as a result of this economy, I will declare him the greatest President ever. Further, I will send Alan Greenspan a thank you card.

 

So now you're saying the team is currently producing???

 

Bima, anytime you come out of a deal with the younger,better player, its almost a no brainer. Getting a 25 yr old big shot maker like iggy is a no brainer and dalembert has 1 yr after this which makes him an attractive expiring. So u ride next yr with dalembert being yao's backup and u trade the expiring of the soon to be 32 yr old shane. I never said brooks should play 40 mins a night,but 36 is in his wheelhouse. I highly doubt the rox will want spend 4m on lowry and then another 6.5m on brooks. Bring lull over and conror in camp.Just like i doubt they would spend 6m on luis and 8m on landry when both are starters. I agree shane is a leader ezcept on the road in the playoffs where he does 0. Bowen was a leader as was avery and they were traded and or released. Cant hold onto a guy who's salary doesnt equal his production.

 

What I like about dealing with 76ers is the fact that they play motion offense just like the rockets. Any players involved in this trade would have no problems integrating with the current offense implemented by Adelman.

If the 76ers get one good player in the deal such as lowry for instance, it would be a great upside for them to do the trade even if they don't unload brand or dalambert.

If i were the PHI GM, iggy wouldn't be tradeable, but if they are willing to do it, it may be worth it. They are giving up their franchise player jsut for a shot at the 2010 sweepstakes. It's a tough call for them, but beneficial to us.

 

Glad someone else said it!

i'm hoping this is exactly the reason DM hasn't pulled the trigger on the Dalembert/Iguodala trade that most of assume has already been discussed. The prevailing argument is that if the 6ers give us Iggy + anyone not named brand or dalembert, they've been ripped off. The counter argument is this: Do the 6ers really want to pay Iggy, a player everyone agrees is not a #1 option, $15.9 million in 2014? As his pay increases over the next few years, they're going to find him more and more difficult to move. Hence i can see why DM would hardball with them, insisting (like you said) that Iggy is the bad contract we're willing to take the hit on.

in the end we might end up taking Dalembert and Iggy, but no reason to jump on it right away.

 

if we are trying to improve our team we should consider who we are willing to move to make an upgrade (Height, talent age & position are considerations)
Most of all we need to get maximum benifit from a McGrady Trade
Trade him with in order:-
Cook, Dorsey, Mike Harris, Battier (age),Anderson, J.Taylor,Ariza, Scola (age)

I am not saying that we should trade any of them but we should be willing.

We should try to protect:
Yao, Landry, Buddinger, Brooks, Lowery as our ongoing core players.

 

Giving up iggy for nothing? Who the heck is philly going to get. They will want landry or brooks.

 

Read the thread and you will find your answer. Philli might be looking to rebuild and don't think Iggy will be ther when they are ready to push for a Championship. So the 20+ mill that would be available to spend, plus a op 5 draft pick after losing so much would be enough to kick start there re-building phase.