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My Breakdown of McGrady Trade Possibilities

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by emjohn, Dec 30, 2009.

  1. TheGreat121

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    all crubs john salmons fg% is lower than arizas. the worst in the nba y would u want him. we have brooks and lowry both are better than hinrich y get him. just let tmacs contract run out unstead of trading for scrubs
     
  2. 2rings

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    So, what is the value in trading T-Mac now vs. just leeting his contract expire and taking a run at Bosh and other interesting free agents? I am all for a trade (in fact I pray for one) but I actually think we have the upper hand. if we don't get value back, just let him roll off the cap in 6 months.
     
  3. Rockets2K

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    I would recommend you read BimaThug's thread pertaining to this subject....we will NOT have 23M free next summer by letting mcgrady's contract expire....I'm not real sure how you could miss that fact considering how many times it has been said in multiple threads
     
  4. 2rings

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    I fully realize we will NOT have the full $23M, but I DO realize that if we are not careful we could wind up with $23M worth of garnage if we take on longer deals than T-Mac's which is expiring at year's end. Once again I restate, if we can get more value in return we should do a trade, if we can't we shouldn't take on longer term garbage than the short-term garbage (aka T-Mac) that we have now.
     
  5. Rockets2K

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    well, your post talked about going after max salaried players(Bosh)...which aint happening with what little cap space we will have if they allowed mcgrady's contract to expire. If you are talking about going after MLE level free agents, then I stand corrected...but that certianly isn't how your post read.
     
  6. 2rings

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    I think one of the biggest risks right now is for the rox to pull the trigger on something that burdens us with players we dont want for long-term deals in the interest of "using the T-mac expiring contract asset." With all due respect to Carol Dawson, the biggest + diff between Morey and Dawson has been his ability to keep focused on never overpaying and "over-yearing" contracts. I would imagine that the pressure to do something will mount on him as the deadline apporaches. I just hope he can keep focused on what I think has made him very effective to date.
     
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    Leeb, that's the worst idea you've had yet. If you're persisting in trading the 29 year old Scola in a deal, at least make it a deal that gets us some real talent, not to simply to give Landry "more minutes," which is the only thing I saw that you (not me) would consider worthwhile from getting some of the Nets garbage. Geez!
     
  8. aelliott

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    I've seen quite a few posts adament about us not taking back garbage in exchange for McGrady. That seems to make sense and I think everyone agrees with that. I haven't seen a single person avocating that we take back garbage just to make a trade. So, if we all know that it's a bad idea to take back garbage contracts and no real value for McGrady, then don't you think that Daryl Morey knows that too? What's all the worry?
     
  9. aelliott

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    Well said.
     
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    CP3 is also one of the best in running the break. The difference between him and Brooks/Lowry on the break is like day and night. You are also right in that in the playoffs the teams are forced to play the half court game and this is where getting the ball to Yao becomes very critical.

    The reason teams are successful with fronting Yao is that the Rockets do not have anybody who can pass the ball properly to break down the fronting. The fronting tactic will be inutile when CP3 runs the offense as he has the capability to shred it with his passing ability. Go get him DM!
     
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    Looking at the NBA champions teams in the past 20 years, I have a feeling that if you want to pick a position to have a super star, PG position is the least effective position.
     
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    You are right Deck the deal should not be to give someone like a Landry more playing time. The way Landry is being utilized right now is just perfect for his current capabilities.

    Landry was just eaten up by Okafor last night. The other teams are starting to have their scouting reports catch up to Landry's game and it will be more difficult for him to keep playing at this level pretty soon. He has to make adjustments too as other teams find a way to stop him. Having said that, I still think Scola is a much better PF than Landry overall.
     
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    I agree I doubt whether we would keep both if we made that trade. However, we should be able to find a 3rd team (OKC?, Portland?, Toronto?) that would be interested in taking Biendrin's contract. For example we could send Biendrins to Portland for Przybilla and a draft pick or another player.

    It would make sense for Portland because there are question marks lingering over Oden's future health as well as Przybilla's. As it stands right now they are either going to have one of the best center combinations next year or they will be paying $14M to watch their centers limp around the court or sit on the bench. Getting Biendrins would help them salvage this season and give them some insurance at the center position until they have to make a decision about Oden's contract extension in a few years. By that time they could find a taker for Biendrins's contract if they needed to move him.

    It would make sense for the Rockets because you go from a 4 year contract down to one that expires next year at $7.5M. If Przybilla is healthy we have a good backup center for Yao next year. If Przybilla can't play due to his injury his contract will be paid by insurance, which will mean it will be a valuable trading chip. The only downside is that Przybilla wouldn't be able to help the Rockets this year obviously.

    The idea of having Magette's contract and selfishness on the team is still troubling to me. Unfortunately, I just don't see anybody other way of getting Randolph. However, if Randolph lived up to his full potential I could get over that very quickly. That's the problem though, Randolph has the boundless talent to be the next KG. But he also could end up being the next Stromile Swift if his work ethic doesn't match his talent level. It's a crap shoot.
     
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    i was thinking that in recent news NO has been trying to get under luxury tax and since we have She-mac this would be a good opportunity for us

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/11841/tradenon-trade-were-big-deals-to-hornets

    they have to be forced to drop west, but rather drop Peja-Songaila-Posey to relieve the cap

    i think T-mac, AB, Scola, Cook
    for CP3, peja, Songaila, Posey

    would be the best trade for us to get a superstar and still keep our core w/ landry
     
  15. aelliott

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    Why is that a problem?

    You are correct that a package of CP3, Songalia, Peja and Posey is around $37.5M.

    A package of McGrady, Brooks, Scola and Cook comes to $30.75M.

    That's within the allowed 25%, no? Most any deal to include Chris Paul is going to have to contain aggregate salaries above $25M in order to get around Paul's BYC amount (~$6.5M). The finances work just fine. The difficult part is getting NO to realize that they have no choice but to trade CP3.
     
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    How many superstar PG's playing alongside a top 2 center were included in that sample?
     
  17. Rockets2K

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    robbie wasnt aware of the amount of leeway they have for matching salaries

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=4994738&postcount=184
     
  18. saleem

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    I'm ok with it. I do think the Bulls will ask for either Luis or Carl. That should be a deal breaker.
     
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    I keep hearing Suns fans pushing for J.Richardson + Barbosa for McGrady. I don't get it, seems like an absolute steal for us.
     
  20. Rockets2K

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    hmmm

    Richardson at 13.3M with one year remaining for 14.4M and Barbosa at 6.6M, but his runs for two more seasons for 7.1 and 7.6

    not exactly sure we need that many swingmen tho.
     

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