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Chron: T-Mac sits until he can be worked in (Coach unsure how to distribute minutes)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Dec 26, 2009.

  1. roe4christ

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    I say give him no more than 12 min. a game leading up to the trading deadline. That is at least a quarter of play. See what he can do in that 12 min. of playing time. Spread it over the last half of the first quarter and some in the third quarter depending on the game and the score. This will both accomadate McGrady and team while seeing if any deals develope and to see where he is at physically and whether he can become a team player rather than the go to guy everytime down the court. If he does not produce with the 12 min. or he disrupts the teams play on the court, cut his time back down to 7 min. or put him on the pine. Team is more important than McGrady. We do think we need to see what he's got and how he is going to mesh given a few more minutes.
     
  2. MightyMog

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    Great Coaches can make any player fit.... That's why I love Phil Jackson.

    One has to wonder if Yao is going to get the same treatment because Yao is coming off a major surgey and we see the same treatmeant or is this just simplying moving on with out Tmac.
     
  3. DrNuegebauer

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    So we lost the game then?

    Oh no - wait? We won - so it DIDN'T "kill" us?

    You do realise that Ariza is shooting better from the field than TMac this season?
     
  4. DrNuegebauer

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    Who exactly do you think that might be?

    Which NBA player with Viper eligibility (must be on the Rockets and have 2 or less NBA seasons experience) is a former star :confused:
     
  5. meh

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    The logic of the T-Mac supporters seems really weird.

    If you or your family member were in the same situation as T-Mac, seeing the examples before you of people rushing back from microfracture surgery and failing, seeing how last year you rushed back and failed, would support T-Mac getting more minutes. Did people really forget how Chris Webber had the same surgery, came back, and then proceed to drop from superstar status to cancer status?

    I don't know what's T-Mac's rush. We've only played 30 games. How many games does he need to set his offseason worth anyway? 20? 30? If he plays 20-30 minutes for the 2nd half of the season, I see no reason why he can't use that as the bar for his FA value.
     
  6. saleem

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    That's a very myopic way of looking at it. Ariza is clearly struggling. If he doesn't get better it will eventually bite us.

    Tracy needs to work hard on both ends,he can help out. It's up to him to produce as best as he can. He needs to earn his minutes,no demands for more minutes will work. However it's not possible for him to go flat out,as if he never got hurt,which is part of the reason RA is struggling with him. Management and Tracy need to work it out. If Tracy is doing poorly,pull him out,if he is playing well give him more minutes around 15 or so.
     
  7. Chamillionaire

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    he'll be gone soon IMO, this is getting worse and worse just when i thought they had it figured out. budinger getting injured meant that either mac or jt would have to play. obviously the coach doesn't think so and sticking with ariza battier combo and playing lowry more.

    adelman just doesn't trust him IMO, he's a volume shooter, although he makes some impressive one's, the ones he misses can lose us games. everyone knows this, he isn't the mac that used the slash to the rim and slam it down for and one. he's a jump shooter, a bad one at that. i'd rather have budinger, landry, brooks taking those shots.
     
  8. Big Shot Bob

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    Trade tmac, cook, and dorsey and maybe a 2nd round draft pick to the nets for bobby simmon's contract, brook lopez, najera and hassel. Gives McGrady his minutes, gives Rick Brook Lopez, and gives New Jersey more cap space this summer to dish out on free agents. Win Win Win.
     
  9. Rocketsmith

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    We barely defeated the worse team in the league and the 1-10 vs Orlando was a game we lost. You do realize that Ariza has been shooting very poorly on the road?
     
  10. 11Rox4Life3

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    I agree it didn't kill us, but bringing up T-Mac's FG% is r****ded. You do realize if McGrady had a simple 1 for 2 shooting game, he'd be at 40% (which isn't good either, but I'm trying to say, that the FG% doesn't measure jack squat).
     
  11. 11Rox4Life3

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    Yeah, he's beginning to SHOOT worse. He's 8-38 in his last three games..

    You know what's funny? T-Mac is 4-9 in his last two games.
     
  12. RV6

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    Cat say i'm surprised...while so many want to believe tmac is evil and they want him out, it appears they're still trying to see how he can work with this team...

    And the key is that article is talking about NOW. Not in amonth, not the whole season, not forever. It's saying FOR NOW, tmac isn't fitting. It says that because they realize the rehab is a long process that may not be over yet.
     
  13. nickb492

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    And you realize that Ariza plays almost 5 times as many minutes as McGrady. Giving T-mac 7 minutes doesn't really give him a chance to see what he can do for the team.
     
  14. Rocketsmith

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    Not to be picking on Ariza, but it doesn't take a genius to find minutes for McGrady when Trevor is struggling and Taylor has looked lost. Ariza played 43 minutes, he could definitely use a little rest. Maybe his extended minutes are effecting his shooting? A little rest may do him some good, at least he would be a little fresher at the end of the game.
     
  15. mjharleem22

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    mcgrady isnt a bad shooter. like you said he can be a volume shooter, but that doesnt mean he is bad. Mcgrady is actually pretty good at coming off the screen and hitting a jumpshot, or getting open and drilling a three. it just so happens that he takes really tough shots sometimes. I just dont understand why T-mac cant fit in the system but Ariza can?
     
  16. t_mac1

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    you won't have this dilemma this year and adelman WILL adjust his offense to fit yao (yao said in an article posted recently that he hopes the team can find a way to accomodate both the fast and slow pace).

    it's obvious tracy is not going to be here next year, and both sides don't like one another. it's harder to force adelman to facilitate tmac when he doesn't like tmac.
     
  17. mjharleem22

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    thats my point, and we still saw some promise from him in the clippers game, and he has barely played over a games worth of mins.
     
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    so DD, who wants to bet adelman will have ZERO problems adjusting his offense to facilitate to yao (despite knowing the type of surgery he had and knowing he might not be the player he once was) at least until yao proves he can't do it?

    it's clear as pudding: both sides have their own agendas. we don't want to play tmac, and tmac wants to play to earn another contract. b/c of what happened last year, the team doesn't want to give him a chance and this PR the team is putting out is just that: PR.

    if tracy had not acted unprofessional last year, there is ZERO DOUBT that adelman and morey would do all they can to give tmac more minutes and try to incorporate him into the team the best they can.

    so again, tracy just has to know what's going on (and hopefully he finally gets what the organization's plans are this tuesday when everyone meets). so he should just sit tight, keep working on his game at home, and get ready for that phone call for a trade.
     
  20. Rocketsmith

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    Somebody is paying attention in class. ;)

    I would like Adelman to go with the hot hand. Clearly in the last 3 games, Ariza has been struggling, but he still plays big minutes. Hard to see how McGrady could do any worse.
     

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