Only one all time great this decade. Last decade we had shaq and duncan. We also had ai and webber who are both good players.
Really? You want Yao to dunk it all the time? Sorry, this isn't NBA 2K10, Yao is what he is. He's a finesse player with tons of skill, same thing with Kevin Garnett, Pau Gasol, Hakeem Olajuwon, etc. Dwight Howard is what he is too, he's not a good free throw shooter and he never will be because he is what he is. And I would say Yao is the better individual defender than what Dwight is, but Dwight is the better overall defender because of his shot blocking and the fact that he's not a liability in the pick n roll, still close though.
Dwight Howard could easily be as good as Shaq or Duncan in time...he has already taken his team to the finals. The last 4-5 picks you can't judge that they're great players this early in their careers anyways. Rose or Griffin could end up being better than AI and Webber, they certainly have the potential. Only one I would swap is Bogut over KMart. Martin put up ok numbers on a decent team with the Nets, made a lot better by having Kidd as the point guard. Bogut has slowly improved to the point where he is now putting up good numbers (16 and 10 this year) on a team that has been pretty much terrible the whole time he has been there, they've only just this decided this year perhaps they should score through him a bit more than let their guards jack up bad shots all game.
Uhh, I don't think dwight will ever be as good as Shaq or Duncan. He isn't developing a shot and his offense is the same as last years. Shaq dominated more at the inside game in his prime, and Duncan is Duncan.
Not even close, Pretty obvious you didn't watch either Shaq or Duncan when they played. They made their impact right away when they were rookies.
Sorry didn't know they retired. My view is he still has the potential to get better, defensively he is better than either.... if you disagree please prove me wrong. Offensively sure he is not as good as Shaq and is a very different player than TD. Yes I did watch them(and still do) and seeing as you must of you should know TD came in alongside another big who was one of the top players of his era in David Robinson, a team already built to win a championship...kinda makes it a bit easier don't you think?
Don't really want to join this specific tangent, but it's no slight to DH that he won't be as good as Shaq or Duncan. We are talking about arguably the most dominant center and best power forward to ever play the game. To say he can 'easily' reach that...well he still has a long way to go IMHO.
nice list. how often does a new thread with a list of 10 come out...without ANY disagreements really? (even those disagreeing with yao/howard or bogut are just saying "well i could see this" but not really disagreeing)
I never was saying he would. The thing is Duncan had his well rounded game from the get go, there were little things he could and did improve on. My point is Howard came in with no jump shot at all and still put up decent numbers just off his athletic ability alone basically. He has more things he can improve on still than say Duncan did when he came in but that is all I am saying, he has the potential to get better if he can get better range, better FT shooting etc.
Wow, Howard better defensively than Tim Duncan. Tell me when Dwight Howard is capable of shutting down a Big man from scoring instead of just swatting numerous of shots. Tim Duncan should have won a DPOY at one point, he was one of the best post players to ever play the game and he was one of the defensive player to ever play the game. You obviously never saw what Duncan did in 2003, so I won't talk to you about this anymore.
Why? because nothing to back up your point of view? Seriously I want to see. Duncan is a good defender no doubt, he also often didn't get the key big man on the opposing team and he played in defense first setup. Oh wait sorry, I should reply like you do. WOW! Duncan better defender than Howard, you don't watch basketball idiot, don't talk to me!
Lebron Dwight Howard Yao (injury prone) then everyone else. Griffin won't be a bust, he'll be an amare type of a player. too bad he's got bdiddy, he needs a pass first point guard.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, there is no point arguing with you. Anybody that thinks Dwight was a better defender than Timmy in his prime was kidding themselves. I'll back myself up, Duncan was every bit as good of a shot blocker, since he averaged 2 BPG himself, He knew how to shut down a scoring big men, something Dwight doesn't know how to do and Duncan was one of the best pick n roll defenders in the league, while Dwight was just average at that as well.
I just think he is, he is far more intimidating than TD ever was, he is a far better rebounder....which seems to be a forgotten fact when comparing defensive big men, he is also a lot quicker to be the help D. I can recall plenty of times Shaq took TD to town and he really was the only other high scoring big man playing against TD in his prime. Yao is the only one to constantly put up big numbers on Howard. Don't forget how much better a player can look in a good defense, if Duncan was so great at defending the big then why did the Spurs have a habit of signing defensive big men?
Well, that's why it's a matter of perspective. From my perspective, Dwight Howard is an amazing physical specimen that is vastly over-rated. He's been in the league for six years now, has only averaged more than 20 ppg once, and even then he just barely managed it - and he hasn't dramatically improved his offensive game at all. He accomplishes what he accomplishes because he's a great athlete and a beast of a man. Whereas Yao Ming, while not the athlete Dwight is, is also unique due to his height - but does have an incredibly polished offensive game (down to hitting free throws at a damn near 90% clip). I also think it's a myth that Dwight Howard is a better defender than Yao. One on one, sure. But as a team defender? I'm not so sure about that. I think the difference here is that Howard is a better shot blocker and people think good shot blocker = great defensive player. I think Yao impacts the game defensively every bit as much as Howard. Essentially, I think Yao is a considerably better offensive player and equally effective defender. That said - I'd still take Howard over Yao because of health reasons. But again, I said it depends on your perspective - and maybe some would consider the players they are when they're on the floor without factoring in the likelihood of injuries. p.s. I don't feel like Howard led the Magic to the finals. He may be their franchise player, but Hedo Turkoglu was the best player on that team in the playoffs last year.
