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McGrady Tired of These Cameo Roles

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by worzel gummidge, Dec 24, 2009.

  1. t_mac1

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    clearly you don't have NBA LP. have you seen a cavs game? seriously?

    yes, melo gets the ball in the post A TON, and he holds the ball in there for A TON.

    same things with a lot of star scorers. the thing is, they are great at it.

    when tracy was great at it in his prime, people loved him for it b/c he was a top 5 scorer.

    now he's battling injuries and isn't as good, people have the right to criticize.

    but please, watch some more basketball before you make a post like that. lebron james is probably the worst at holding onto the ball (if you saw the kings game last night, you will know).
     
  2. leebigez

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    nYou can believe all that bs you're spewing about the rockets being a playoff team prior, but we all know or can assume based on the growth curve and the toughness of the west that there was a good chance the rockets wouldn't have even made the playoffs.
     
  3. Ramathorn006

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    Great point.
     
  4. bravo six

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    Maybe someone would have, but it wouldn't have been me. I don't know how much of him you've seen in person this year, but you can just tell from his body language what's up. Trust me, I was one of those defending him until I saw it for myself.

     
  5. 11Rox4Life3

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    Yeah, LeBron holds the ball arguably more than any other player in the league, he's unselfish, but everything runs through him.
     
  6. OldSchool34

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    I don't blame LeBron, who can he pass to and can rely on to make those shots? Tmac can down in Houston. Talk about what he once was all you want, but he's more done than dinner. He's not the best player on this team, as a matter of fact I don't even think he's a Top 3 player on this team, I think Scola, Landry and Yao are better.
     
  7. Ramathorn006

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    And this is based off your judgment of him playing 7 minutes a game :rolleyes:
     
  8. OldSchool34

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    I based this is off of last season, because I don't think he'll be any different anymore. I think he'll give more effort this being his contract year, but I don't think he's capable of being an All-Star player anymore and I think we all know this by now. We, being logical Houston Rocket fans; not illogical Tracy McGrady fans.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    that's not the point. the point is people on this board hates supposed "ball stoppers." and i just claim that almost every star perimeter scorer is a "ball stopper" outside of a rip hamilton or a ray allen.

    you want a joe johnson? well, get used A TON of pick and rolls if he does come here. A TON of them.

    so i don't want people to complain about ball stopping and whatever when morey does acquire that star perimeter player.

    people have to understand the reason we are playing the way we are playing b/c we have to. we don't have a great 1-on-1 player. when yao returns, we're going to go back to force feeding him at times. that's just how life is when you have a damn good scorer.

    tracy right now is not that. but he hasn't stopped the ball much since he returned if you really watched the game. the offense rarely stops with him in the game. the problem with tracy has been defense.
     
  10. t_mac1

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    that's great logic there. judge a guy when he's injured and shouldn't have played at all. judge him a month from now when he gets 25 minutes a game. i can make a bet with anyone that OFFENSIVELY, tracy will be very close if not at his 07-08 days.

    offensively speaking only, he's moving VERY quick just 6 games in playing just 8 minutes a game. he's slowly getting a lot of elevation of his jumpers. the only thing lacking is his finish around the rim, which should improve with more reps.

    well, defensively, tracy just needs to be smarter.
     
  11. Rocket River

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    So we ASSUME growth in the west but none in the Rockets
    WOW! How one-sided :rolleyes:

    Rocket River
     
  12. OldSchool34

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    The last guy who came back to being just as explosive as he once left off from the same surgery Tmac had was Amare Stoudemire, who was in his young 20s when he got that micro-fracture knee surgery. I don't think you understand how absolutely serious that injury is, then again I doubt you ever suffered an injury similar or even close to that. Every other player that has gotten the same injury declined sharply.

    Jason Kidd, Antonio McDyess, Kenyon Martin, I can go on.
     
  13. Ramathorn006

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    Dude the man was playing hurt last season and he openly admitted it. Yeah he might not be an all-star caliber player but he sure is a upgrade over Ariza. We, being logical Houston Rockets fans, know this.
     
  14. OldSchool34

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    He was playing hurt, ok. What does that have to do with anything? The only thing that shows me is how stupid he is to be honest with you. What's the point of playing injured when you still play soft and like a wimp anyways? I mean, Tracy avoids contact as much as possible, he doesn't crash the boards and he doesn't play defense. So basically he ignores half of the game and he ignores intangibles. Gee what a nice player to have. :rolleyes:
     
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    Agreed. I don't know where all this game from... I thought all was at peace in Rocketsville, but I guess I was wrong. I don't understand this anymore. Was McGrady mis-quoted? Is he really this bi-polar/flaky?
     
  16. SuperMarioBro

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    Erm, that should say "came from", not "game from".
     
  17. t_mac1

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    have you seen tracy the last 2 games offensively? the orlando commentators commented on how quick he looked and how he didn't lsoe much of that on the drive that he missed on the layup.

    and explosiveness, the 07-08 tracy wasn't that explosive.

    again, tracy had the least extensive microfracture surgery there is (on a non-weighted bearing area).

    give him a month. after that one month, people can say with some confidence on what kind of career tracy will have post-microfracture.
     
  18. OldSchool34

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    You will see some glimpses of it, and that's about it. In other words, it's a tease. If you think Tmac will be the same player he was the last time he was healthy, you are setting yourself up for a disappointment, but it doesn't matter to me. Your moniker says it all.
     
  19. Seven

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    McGrady hasn't been an effective superstar perimeter player since 2007. Yeah, it's common sense that every star player should dominate the ball, but is he still a star player? Tmac can disrupt the offense when he proves that him handling the ball is a best option. Until then, I remain skeptical.
     
  20. Rocket River

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    That is the point. OFFENSIVELY that is all he EVER cared about.
    If you quick on Offense why are you not quick on Defense?
    Why is he looking good on Offense but on Defense his knee now is hurt and damaged?
    Could it be . . . all he cares about is one end of the court?

    Rocket River
     

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