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TMac has returned to elite status

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. Yak

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    Everyone knows that T-Mac is an offensively gifted player. We know that he can go out and probably drop 30 points if he's given significant minutes.

    But, we, as fans, feel as if we deserve a complete T-Mac, the T-Mac that forced his way back into the line-up.

    So, if he says he can play, then that should imply defense too. If he wants to come out, get some points/assists, coast on defense, and trick some moronic GM into giving him a nice contract in the off-season due to his boxscore numbers, then by all means, GO FOR IT.

    BUT NOT ON THIS TEAM. :eek:

    If you say you're hungry to get back out on the court, then show it for the 8 minutes you're given, not the 4 you spend on offense. He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt anymore. He's playing to earn not only our respect back, but the entire organization's and other organizations around the league as well.
     
  2. BrownBeast99

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    He is not in sync on the defensive end, that is clear. He should get better as he gets more time playing with his teammates and getting used to playing NBA basketball again. But offensively, if anyone is complaining then just take a look at Ariza and swallow it.
     
  3. Salvy

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    How many minutes did Tmac play again? Its not like he caused the Rockets the game.... Really, it does seem like everything that happens is blamed on Mcgrady... There is a reason why at this moment he is only playing 7 minutes at a low risk time... Chill guys, he is not affecting the games so any hate against him is pointless... When he starts to cause us game due to defense, fga, lack of effort or w/e we can start complaining..
     
  4. tracyli2

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    7mins is too short to evidence anything
    carl,cao ni lao mu!
     
  5. freddyg956

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  6. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    Because that one player is Tracy Mcgrady.
     
  7. Crudder

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    This makes sense to me and I wholeheartedly agree. Everyone needs to show effort on defense - I was merely trying to say that showing effort vs. no effort when you suck at whatever it is doesn't win us games. So yes, I am often just as irritated as Ariza jacking up shots and not driving as I am when Tmac does it.

    Now, I can only base what I'm saying on Clutch's replay because I didn't see the whole period when Tmac played (my link was lagging). But from what I saw from the replay, it wasn't so much a lack of effort as not having the quickness to cover his man. Now, if he deserves to keep playing because of that is another topic.
     
  8. rockets934life

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    Well TMAC is certainly polarizing isn't he?!?! Didn't see the game so I won't make a comment regarding his performance tonight but strictly from the highlights he had his moments good and bad. I doubt we will see the old TMAC ever again but even in glory days his "D" was always hit or miss so it doesn't suprise me but don't think he is enough of a factor to worry about just yet. I'll wait till he plays 15-20 mins a game before crushing him or praising him.
     
  9. FR0497

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    Where's the thread on Ariza for watching his man blow right by him wihle he stood and watched?

    Geez the one time T-Mac played a little soft on D the haters come out full force. How about his previous games where he showed great defensive effort? Where's that thread?
     
  10. t_mac1

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    every thread that involves tmac deserves a new/own thread. everyone should know that.

    it's mandatory that there should be 3-4 tmac threads on the front page at all times. 1-2 subpar defensive possessions demand a thread; 1-2 bad shots demand a thread; a short post game interview deserves a thread...
     
  11. Crudder

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    I know, I agree Durvasa. The problem I have is that everyone seems to be ragging on Tmac for terrible defense (which he obviously has shown in the past), but it's not like this team was a defensive juggernaut tonight.

    The only thing I am trying to avoid is being personally biased to a particular player because he is currently under the microscope. From the defensive plays I saw on Clutch's replay (which was all I can watch at the moment), it didn't appear like he was not trying on defense (unlike that Jamario Moon dunk where he obviously gave up).

    Then again, I'm not really sure what people were expecting from him when he came back. He never was a defensive force to begin with and we've always known this about him. The upside is he provides offense on a team that lacks players that can create their own shots - the downside is he is often a liability on defense. I thought this was already known though...
     
  12. Dave_78

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    I'm in agreement on this. He was a little slow on defense tonight. It happens to everyone...especially tonight.
     
  13. Obito

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    Jesus you sound like a broken record.

    Congrats, you put me in a bad mood on my vacation week.
     
  14. Yak

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    Check the GARM. Most of the new threads have to do with Ariza's lack of offensive fluidity with undertones of defensive slacking. He's getting his fair share of heat. But he's only getting paid 5 million. He's a role player.

    Tracy, on the other hand, is the highest paid player in the NBA. He has been labeled as a superstar his entire career.

    T-Mac isn't allowed to take possessions off. If he wanted to get back on the court, then he needs to show that he can give maximum effort 100% of the time.

    It's for his own good.
     
  15. Scolandry

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    This website is always b****in about every little thing.
    Go out and play basketball once in your life and see that its not that easy as yall think it is.
     
  16. SuperStar

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    Man, the guy only plays 8mins a night and people already crying.
     
  17. Yak

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    If I'm getting paid 23 million, I deserve to be b****ed at for not earning my paycheck.
     
  18. t_mac1

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    i don't think real rocket fans mind the criticisms on tracy (legit ones). but when you choose one of the worst defensive games by the team to destroy mcgrady (and he wasn't the worst defensive player out there), it tells a lot.

    and when people claim the reason tracy costs the team games playing just 7-8 minutes when he's been more of a non-factor for most of the games, it tells a lot also.
     
  19. FR0497

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    Name ONE superstar that doesn't take a possession off and I'll find you a vid of him doing so.
     
  20. HookemHorns1250

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    What about the +8 or so he had in the Detroit game? Your posts are getting a bit ridiculous. You seem to want to talk about his +/- when his is on the lower end. However, when it's on the higher, your no where to be seen.
     

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