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ClutchFans Game Thread: Clippers @ Rockets 12/22/2009

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 21, 2009.

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chuck hayes is gonna destroy chris kaman.

#41 devilsdandruff, Dec 22, 2009

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devilsdandruff said:

chuck hayes is gonna destroy chris kaman.
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I was just on another site and the Clippers fans are talking about how Kaman is gonna have a HUGE game against Hayes

#42 rhino17, Dec 22, 2009
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Any word on if Wafer plays tonight?

#43 WilliamGCash, Dec 22, 2009
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rhino17 said:

I was just on another site and the Clippers fans are talking about how Kaman is gonna have a HUGE game against Hayes
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Well, they're Clippers fans, so that already speaks volume for their basketball IQ right there.

#44 WilliamGCash, Dec 22, 2009
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Any good links for tonight??

#45 brooksstephens, Dec 22, 2009
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WilliamGCash said:

Any word on if Wafer plays tonight?
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He will not.

#46 Dave_78, Dec 22, 2009
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He will not.
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Is that official?

#47 tmoney1101, Dec 22, 2009

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WilliamGCash said:

Well, they're Clippers fans, so that already speaks volume for their basketball IQ right there.
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Care to elaborate? By your logic, Lakers fans are the smartest in basketball and the truth is they are by far (BY FAR) the dumbest as a collective fan base, due to the sheer volume of clueless bandwagoners.

#48 clippy, Dec 22, 2009
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tmoney1101 said:

Is that official?
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it said in the article about him re-signing that he will not be available tonight

#49 rhino17, Dec 22, 2009
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tmoney1101 said:

Is that official?
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Doesn't he have to pass a physical?

#50 ItsMyFault, Dec 22, 2009
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i really just want that swimsuit calender

#51 Rockets_blood, Dec 22, 2009
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clippy said:

Care to elaborate? By your logic, Lakers fans are the smartest in basketball and the truth is they are by far (BY FAR) the dumbest as a collective fan base, due to the sheer volume of clueless bandwagoners.
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Oh look it's a clippers fan. 'Clippy', what a cute moniker!

#52 LCII, Dec 22, 2009
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Why is this game so early considering it's played in LA? Guess even the NBA has conceded that no one will watch the Clippers regardless of what time the game is.

#53 TheRealist137, Dec 22, 2009

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TheRealist137 said:

Why is this game so early considering it's played in LA? Guess even the NBA has conceded that no one will watch the Clippers regardless of what time the game is.
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Because it's in Houston.

#54 Omer, Dec 22, 2009
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any links yet?

#55 XBLRocketman111, Dec 22, 2009
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XBLRocketman111 said:

any links yet?
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http://hqnba.ucoz.com/nba8.html

that's all i can find so far. we'll find out in a few min.

change the "nba#" part of the link with 1-8 to see other games.

#56 Acedude, Dec 22, 2009
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XBLRocketman111 said:

any links yet?
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http://atdhe.net/11182/watch-los-angeles-clippers-vs-houston-rockets
will be working when the game starts

#57 NewBigThree09, Dec 22, 2009
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eliefan said:

I keep wondering if the Rockets train is going to fly off the tracks at some point. I think I have convinced myself that its not. I'll post this here, as it's not deserving of its own thread, but going into the Clippers game, the Rockets are scoring 1.7 more points per game than its opponent. Based on the basketball Pythagorean expectation, we should have a 46-36 record at the end of the season if we continue to score 101.3 points per game and give up 99.6 PPG. Essentially what this says is, "Give me a good points differential, and I'll give you a good record." The top 5 in points differential are BOS, LAL, ATL, DEN, and ORL, so this stat doesn't lie.

So that said, in order to score more points than the other team, at least one of the following must be true:
A) Score more points from free throws
B) Shoot more 2-pt shots
C) Shoot better on 2-pt shots (higher FG%)
D) Shoot more 3-pt shots
E) Shoot better on 3-pt shots (higher 3PT %)

So let's see which of these are true. For the Rockets so far this season:
A) False - the Rockets score 1.0 fewer points from FT than its opponents per game
B) False - the Rockets shoot 3.9 fewer 2-pt FGs than its opponents per game
C) False - the Rockets 2-pg FG%=48.6, opponents = 49.0
D) True - the Rockets shoot 7.6 more 3s per game than its opponents
E) False - the Rockets 3PT%=34.0, opponents=35.0

So the only reason the Rockets are scoring more points is because we're shooting more 3s.

In the Shane Battier chapter in SI's book "The Art of a Beautiful Game" (previously mentioned on CF a while back - a good read), it says opponents' shots hurt you in the following order:
1) Dunks/Layups - don't give these up on a consistent basis
2) 3s from the corner - shorter 3pt than everywhere else
3) 3s from everywhere but the corner
4) 2-pt jump shots - few players hit these consistently

So from this, I take it a team is more efficient at scoring points by shooting 3s than they are 2-pt jump shots. That's exactly what Houston is doing right now. To keep the math simple, you can score more points shooting 5 shots from 3 and hit 40% than you can shooting 5 shots from 2-pt and hit 50%. What Houston is doing is electing to shoot from 3 at a 34% clip than to shoot from 2 at a 48.6% rate, while its opponents are not choosing to do this nearly as often. As long as the Rox can shoot north of 33% from 3 (Hou's 3s need to offset the opponent shooting 49% from two) and maintain everything else, the positive point differential should continue to hold. Thus the Rockets' train stays on the tracks and we head to Playoffville.
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Great Post! As Antoine Walker would say, I shoot threes "cause there ain't no fours"...

#58 NMS is the Best, Dec 22, 2009

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Acedude said:

http://hqnba.ucoz.com/nba8.html

that's all i can find so far. we'll find out in a few min.

change the "nba#" part of the link with 1-8 to see other games.
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Sick quality
thanks

#59 Noob Cake, Dec 22, 2009
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tmoney1101 said:

Is that official?
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Yes. He hasn't been activated.

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