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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, May 20, 2000.

  1. SmeggySmeg

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    Shorter speeches and post game ceremonies.

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  2. DaDakota

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    The Rockets need a low post scorer, to compliment the outside game.

    Too often teams allow the Rockets to run wild in the first 3 quarters, then in the end, they take away what they have been doing all game.

    The Rockets have no answer for this and they fall short too often.

    I think the Rockets need someone who can diversify the offense, by being a low post scoring threat.

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  3. TeXaSalsa

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    agreed. that stromile swift guy wouldnt be too bad heheh. i'd rather see us get a franchise PF or C than a franchise SF.

    HP
    are you gonna do an Austin Croshere Effect?
    i got the rooks u got the free agent vets right?

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  4. heypartner

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    Mango,

    I'm not really prodding people to come up with a name, although I do like talking about Fortson playing 10 minutes of center per game with Walt and the 3 horsemen. I've talked about that enough before.

    Old Man Rock:
    No offense, but please take that to one of the plethora of threads devoted to listing a new team on Paper. Hell, we have an entire Forum for it called Draft 2000 or something. In here, we are trying to talk about what you would do as a fantasy coach once the fantasy GMs like yourself are done creating their dream casts.

    TexasSalsa:
    Thanks for the correction.

    While you lead the effects of Rookies, I'm going to try to discuss effects certain style of NBA players has on our 3 guards and our defense. I believe Croshere would fit in with little change. To me, that is a conservative acquisition that will not change the chemistry of the Wizard and his trioka.

    To answer Mango:
    Taking a weak-side shooter away from our 4 out 1 sets
    and The Two Shakes reduced to a One Shake

    The power of our 3 guard sets is based fundamentally in the power of the traditional 4-out 1-in offense (ie, spreading the arc). The 4 out 1 many people confuse as pure ISO. It is different than the Two Shakes. Hell, I find it hard to see the difference. This is the basic set that produced all the alley-oops because it takes the defense away from the basket. You can't do this without 3 outstanding guards. And it is much more effective with a 4th shooter as well.

    Without the 4th shooter (Walt/Bullard and even KT), the defense can cheat. Usually this set (as well as the Two Shakes) starts on the Wing with Francis or Mobley. Picks do come to them, especially Francis. 1 example I recall is by bringing KT to the strong-side elbow and a 3pt shooter to the strong side corner with Francis, thereby abandoning the weak-side to expose an Alley-oop.

    Oops, I'm starting to hold class here. Back to simple effects.

    4 out 1 and Two Shakes start on the wing. By not having at least a mid-range shooter on the opposite Wing, the defense can sag and take away the drive into the lane, effectively taking away a primary threat that forces the double-teams to begin with.

    There are answers to this, I'm sure. I'd need some Flash to help. But, my point is that the 4 out 1 largely would be replaced in circumstances where we have two big men in the game who have little range.

    As for Mobley's Two Shakes. He is so fast that he probably still can get into the lane, as long as the non-shooters have good hands and know how to prepare for dishes.

    Really, I don't care if the big defenses guys can shoot or not from mid-to-long range, we mainly need them to be smart enough to know when to come over to the elbow to give a pick, and when to stay put and waitt for the dish. That is not an easy thing to learn, and that is why rookies like Moises will not start. They must first show proficiency in learning how and when to pick in our motion offenses.

    Rashard Lewis shows no ability to pick. He is only an opportunistic recipient of plays. He doesn't really help put plays in motion. He is better suited for a Hakeem team than a Francis team, in my opinion.

    Guys like Croshere have a much better opportunity to impact play calling than the young athletic studs. Get me defense, or get me a big shooter who knows motion. And my suspicion from following Forston is he is so desperate to start again, he will do whatever it takes to learn the offense and fit it with the 3 guards.
     
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    Before this thread is gone someone do a brian grant effect on our team. a rashard lewis effect would be nice too. and if som1 wants to do a chris webber effect taht would be very hard but very useful. HP!? comon i know u got the croshere one r u doin any others?

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  6. Moe

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    I don't know if I should even be posting on this thread, given HP's constraints. I didn't get to see the Rockets enough to intelligently say how new players would impact the flow other than maybe positions and playing time. In one of popeye's last posts, he went into detail as to how acquisition of a SF would significantly cut into Mobes pt. Therefore, Walt would definately have to be moved if Miller or Johnson were to fall to 9 and be drafted. Does anyone think Walt could bring a late 1st or early 2nd pick? (Pick and trade) That gets too complicated, so lets say the Rockets get Moiso or maybe Olumide or one of the centers. By the way, if you think its hard to predict this years draft, projecting a specific player from next year's draft is really a pig in a poke. With any of the big men, I don't think you change styles from the end of this last season. You basically provide pt for the new guy, hoping he will be a significant contributor the following year. Even if Hakeem comes back 100%, you need to get 15 to 20 minutes in the rotation for the new guy. Well, I've rambled long enough.

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  7. SmeggySmeg

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    Here's my List

    *More Animated Flash Diagrams of the Rockets Plays
    *More Fro's this includes Bull and Drew
    *More Headbands
    *More Lame arse Defense, especially from our superstar in the making Steve Francis
    *New Pyjama style Uniforms
    *More Serious Posts
    *More Fokass

    Smeg of Needs

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  8. Kim

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    One good thing Rashard Lewis would add is offensive rebounding. Mobley puts up a lot of bad shots (many on transition) and makes a bunch of em. He misses too, and way too many times do the other teams get an uncontested board and bring it back up the court leaving you thinking that was a wasted 4 sec possession.

    Lewis (and marcus camby) is the type of player who can get those offensive boards that happen when nobody expects it. Maybe bc he's tall, skinny, and jumps high so he could slip his way to the basket and crash. I don't know, but it's just one perspective.
     
  9. TeXaSalsa

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    The Dermarr Johnson Effect

    Immediate Impact (+s)- Dermarr will probably not do alot his first year in the NBA. if we drafted him i see him playing maybe 20 min per game max. deramrr johnnson in his rookie season will give us a SF or SG who can create huge matchup problems. dermarr can shoot the ball with unlimited range making him a tough guard for slower SFs. in time, dermarr should be able to post up smaller SFs. dermarr can also drive to the basket fairly well, but needs to improve in this area. dermarr will need to bulk up significantly to play in the NBA. he is a TWIG. dermarr is also an amazing athlete with about a 40 in vertical, so he should be able to finish some alley oops on the breaks. due to his athleticism he probably will develop into a very good open court player eventually. he would be a good guy to stop and pop and shoot a quick 3 on the break as a trailer. dermarr will be good on ISOs because his defenders will have to stay home and honor his ability to knock down the 3.

    some negatives- as i said before he is a twig. his game needs polish in every area. he plays soso defense. his intensity is lacking at times but then again his team hardly ever lost, but one cato is enough.
    he needs to be a better passer.

    some other intangibles- dermarr has 40 inch vertical which i said before. his athleticism is very high. he has the potential to be a truly awesome wing player. he wears a headband and that makes him cool.
    he might not want to play the SF at 6'9 he could but in college he played the SG which is SAs and mobes position. dermarr is very versatile and can be a point forward, SG, SF, and even a little full time PG at times. dermarr comes from a winning program at cinncinati.

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  10. Mango

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    Smeg is looking for more Serious Posts?


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  11. SmeggySmeg

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    Stay away from me Mango, your clouding my judgement, ahh I'm being serious, stay away Mr Serious

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