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Whatever the Rockets Have Planned for Ariza Needs to Change Now

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketMania1991, Dec 13, 2009.

  1. RocketMania1991

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    Todays game shows that whatever the Rockets coaching and management has been using Ariza for needs to change.

    It's obvious that the pressure to be the go to guy is getting to him.
    He doesn't have the athletic ability to be the star that they want him to be.
    I understand they are trying to let him adapt over time and assuming that he will improve his game, but he is not made for what this team wants him to do.

    Even though we don't have that star or go to guy right now they need to reduce the amount of shots Ariza is taking and let someone else take them. We have enough guys on this team that are natural shooters who should be getting more looks.

    Not to mention Ariza has been in the league for six years and played in 333 NBA games. If he was meant to be a go to guy who is your primary shooter then he would of developed into that already.

    The fact of the matter is that the Rockets are not doing what's best for Ariza. Letting Ariza going loose on offense is not only hurting the team, but it's hurting Ariza himself. The coaching staff needs to reevaluate how they are using this young man.
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    I agree, by trying to take the pressure off and saying "Go ahead and shoot" it had the opposite effect.

    He is seriously pressing too much and trying too hard.....just tell him to play his role, that is all he will ever be a good role player, and that is enough.

    Sit him down and tell him he is behind Brooks and Scola in options to score....that should sort him out some.

    DD
     
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    re-introduce you to carl landry, DD
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Carl also, but he is not a starter.....but it could not hurt for Adelman to be a little bit more assertive in defining some roles.

    DD
     
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    I agree. I think he's pretty much exposed himself as a knucklehead today.
     
  6. thadeus

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    Yeah, it seems pretty clear that Ariza is not a go-to type of player - and the Rockets don't really need a go-to superstar type right now with the way they're running the offense.

    Ariza needs to be a part of the offense, but no more significant a part than any other Rocket on the floor.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Agreed but a huge flaw in the Rockets offense is Battier and Ariza starting, they just don't move enough or compliment the team game.

    They are both stand outside and shot players if they are asked to dribble or create it is uber-fail for both.

    I think one should be traded this season, if possible.....or at least by summer.

    DD
     
  8. v3.0

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    Agreed on all posts here. Ariza and Battier are complimentary role players. Ariza drank the kool-aid that Morey and Adelman gave him when they signed him, telling him he can be the feature player on this offense. They did this in hoping to get a cheaper replacement for a TMac type of player. Well, it's not working out as much as they hoped for. And Adelman/Morey might just have to go to you know who and play him afterall.
     
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    Morey already said Ariza and Battier are a bit redundant. Having them both out there with Hayes is a real drain. Brooks and Scola are the only legitimate scoring options in the starting lineup. That's why our bench looks so good. You can't ask Brooks or Scola to carry more of the load, they seem to be tiring already.

    I think it's time to start Budinger.
     
  10. saleem

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    C-Bud definitely needs more minutes instead of Ariza and also Battier.
    Balance is key,rather than who starts or finishes IMO,although I admit that Ariza and Battier are somewhat redundant.

    The non-development of J.Taylor has also hurt us. It doesn't show up because of our respectable record,but we need contributions from everyone. I'm also concerned that Andersen is not improving well enough to get some more minutes too.
     
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    There was 2 ways to reign in Ariza's increasing comfort level at volume shooting, without him being more disgruntled.
    1) Straight insert Tracy McGrady in his place. Letting him know the real All star is resuming his role, which makes Ariza a 2nd/3rd option.
    2) Ariza being out with injury or suspension, losing his spot to someone else.

    This is the Rockets chance here to steer Ariza away cleanly.
     
  12. RocketMania1991

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    I honestly don't think Ariza would be disgruntled by taking a back seat to a proven player such as Mcgrady or another quality player on this team. For some reason i'm starting to get a vibe that even he doesn't like his current role with the Rockets.

    Rockets need to try to give him his minutes still, but adjust how he uses his minutes on the court.
     
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    I think we may get our wish.

    DD
     
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    Do they hand out stupid pills on this forum or maybe I am just becoming forgetful but where has anyone on the Roxs stated that Ariza was going to be the feature player on the Roxs for the rest of his contract? As I understood it, the Roxs aren't under the pressure of being a championship contender (nor are they tanking) so they are experimenting and letting players play. I am not sure why so many of you are surprised by the Roxs giving Ariza the green light. Ariza does bring a lot of positive attributes to the team and let's see what he is and isn't capable of doing. With a QUARTER of the season done, how is that going to allow Morey and his faithful statisticians to get a meaningful grasp of what works for Ariza in his new found role. When Yao comes back and whatever moves we make, I can guarantee you that they'll have a talk with Ariza about his role on the team.
     
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    Chase should not start bc his defense is still lacking, lateral movement ftw! Also he is inconsistent and borderline useless when not shooting well. The Rockets organization know even if they make it to the playoffs they will not be able to do much. I like to think they are using this chance for Ariza to develop until we get an all star.
     
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    The pecking order should be like this when we need a critical bucket at the end of a game:

    1) Landry
    2) Brooks
    3) Scola
    4) Budinger
    5) Lowry
    6) Ariza
     
  17. RocketMania1991

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    There is a difference between experimenting and hurting the mindset of a young player. When a player is so frustrated that he throws an ALI like punch at the opposing team that should be a sign that the Rockets need to take control of how Ariza is fitting into the offense and playing on the court.

    I understand Ariza is in a new role with a team as well, but you don't play over 300 games in your career and suddenly become a great scorer out of nowhere.
     
  18. REEKO_HTOWN

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    Budinger will not start this season.

    Ariza is in training to be a 3rd option next year so it is what it is.

    We all knew what we we're getting into with this Development season.

    DEVELOPMENT SEASON!!! Remember that. The goal is NOT the playoffs, it's for these players to grow.
     
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    Hmm. Fixed! :grin:
     
  20. DaDakota

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    I agree, but it is important in developing anyone in any role that you play to their strengths FIRST and then let them add around the edges of those strenghts as they develop.

    Right now, that is not what is going on.

    A goal without a plan, is only a wish

    DD
     

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