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[Yahoo Video] Mac's contract will make it tough to move him

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGreat, Dec 13, 2009.

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  1. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

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    Mac will play soon. just relax. adelman and morey are making sure tmac is as close to all-star form as possible when he does return to increase his value.

    you don't want tmac to look like trevor ariza out there.
     
  2. smoothie

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    here is where we will have to agree to disagree. 3 doctors told tmac that he could play last year and didn't need to take the season off to have surgery. he didn't want to listen to any of them and eventually found one that told him what he wanted to hear. this is what angered the players and the team. it was also tmac who admitted to not following the rehab instructions after the shoulder and knee surgeries that previous off season. i dont see how the team can be included in the "mishandling" of the injury.

    i agree that we could play him and see how it goes. if he plays only for himself and his next contract then the team has a right to bench him. if he complains about minutes or his role then they might have to agree to a buyout if its past the deadline.

    however, i agree that the best case scenario for this season (if the team cannot trade tmac) is for him to come back and lead us happily to the playoffs. as i mentioned before there were insiders who posted earlier that the roster and the coaching staff, and even les appear to be done with him. if thats the case then playing him isn't an option... it's either trade him or... well what if they can't trade him and they can't play him? it might very well be a buyout.

    it's not the worst thing in the world. even if he comes back, plays and leads us to the playoffs hell probably sign elsewhere in the offseason. i'd rather give his minutes to budinger and ariza and let them develop for next season, even at the cost of a few wins.
     
  3. Wolfpack101

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    Does it matter if 20 doctors told him he could play? He clearly was still hurt and not anywhere near 100%. The lack of rehabbing is on him, the organization was wrong to let Tracy dictate the terms of his recovery/playing.
     
  4. leebigez

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    Any thread with tracy mcgrady, read the sig :p
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You are darned skippy, more than you...that is for sure.

    :grin:

    DD
     
  6. smoothie

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    he may not have been 100% and as you said thats his fault.

    however, he didnt have to end the season. yes if 20 doctors said "you wont be at your best, but you can definitely play" and he decides to respond with "i'd rather not play" it says something about his commitment to winning. i honestly believe that if he was committed last season, even playing at 70%, he would've helped the team get past the lakers.

    that shows me that he's not about being part of a winning team, he's about putting up great stats and earning a lot of money. i believe that's what it showed his teammates and the organization as well.
     
  7. number22

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    He was clearly still injured that year. The rockets knew that and they also knew microfracture was needed before the season started. YEs tracy mishandled the situation terribly but the decision to let him go in and out of the lineup was a mutual decision between him and the rockets.
     
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    This is and always has been a classy organization. I expect that perception to continue when we recruit our next superstar.

    Players and agents know which gm's are respectable, regardless of what tracy's situation ends up. I'm pretty sure other superstars understand the real situation and shouldn't deter them from looking at the Rockets for future employment.

    Plus, Yao is our biggest recruiter.
     
  9. smoothie

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    really?

    they didnt even know that he decided to get the surgery until they heard it from stephen A smith. that's how mutual the decision was! lol.
     
  10. bluesinsoul

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    Well if Nets win the finals LBJ will probably join them next year.

    Buy out will be a valid option if the team refuses to play Tracy even he's game ready. There's nothing wrong about the statement. But I just can't see the rockets would hold him out for another two months.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    I don't think a buyout would be because the Rockets want to.....I think Tmac would force it if he is not getting as much time or his touches.

    DD
     
  12. number22

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    It was a mutual decision to go out of the lineup and have a mini training camp during the season. It was mutual to have him not play back to back nights.
    Reading is fundamental. :cool:
     
  13. ROXTXIA

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    If Miami wants McGrady for Jermaine O'Neal, that wouldn't be all bad, although it isn't exactly any sort of Chris Bosh - Amare Stoudemire - Chris Paul sort of home run. Not that this is necessarily a realistic hope.

    But I have wondered if this current Rockets team has played well enough where it gets tough for Morey or Adelman to include any of its players with Tmac in any deal that brings back All Star-ish players with heftier contracts while providing the other team salary cap relief. We'd still be up against it next summer in terms of signing whatever players who are still here to the bigger paydays they will have earned.

    Hell, get something else out of it, why not trade Shane and whomever for expiring Udonis and whatever, put ourselves in position to really come in under the salary cap next year? Miami should still have enough to go after Bosh or Stoudemire or Boozer.

    Of course, any of those free agents would rather play with Wade than with surgically-repaired Yao, but hell, for pipe dreams, there's always LeBron. :grin:
     
  14. smoothie

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    tell that to the ESL kids i teach! they dont want to hear it form me anymore lol.

    bottom line on tmac is he insulted the owner and alienated himself from his teammates. thats a 1 way ticket out of town as far as this organization is concerned. it happened to ron and von last year and its going to happen to tmac this year. he wont play another game for this team... if they wanted him to play, he would already be playing. he's been saying he's ready to go for a month now and has voiced his displeasure with the team for keeping him out for no reason.
     
  15. number22

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    lol. Perhaps. i just think its a two way street as far as the blame should go.
    I agree with you that tracy is outta there. but i think if they want to
    trade him he'll have to suit up as a rocket before it's said and done.
     
  16. nolimitnp

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    Seems reasonable to me.
     
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    No, you said the Rockets and Tracy knew microfracture was need BEFORE the season.

    Not the case.
     
  18. Williamson

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    You have heard of it. Ever heard of Stephon Marbury?
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Thank you it is nice to have some mature understanding in what I was trying to say.

    Much appreciated !

    DD
     
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