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Screwing your life up/ Drug Help (Prescription)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by LosPollosHermanos, Dec 2, 2009.

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  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    EXACTLY.

    My pulse was 100+ for over a month and was 140 resting once before I went to the ER. It wasn't just the adderall aparantly since it is in the low 100 range now, but I'm sure thats what.

    There is a massive giant cloud of fog swimming around my brain on days i don't take it and normally.

    I don't konw if you can call it ADD, but I can't think at all sometimes and these help me. I'll leave it at that for those ignorant few.
     
  2. fmullegun

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    Interaction is a kind of action that occurs as two or more objects have an effect upon one another. Meaning it is not the SINGLE drug's fault we are talking about. Right?

    I just looked up the dosage on various websites. Where did you get the info that 250mg will kill you?


    When you inject meth, it's possible to ingest a great deal of the drug in a single IV. (Anything from a small street dose or "point" of 100 mg. to over a gram.)

    the only thing you said I had wrong was meth is not injected which is false

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    and that 250mg will kill you which is also false.
     
  3. Harrisment

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    I took Ritalin for years and it helped me quite a bit. Anyone saying that coffee gives you more of a stimulant effect than ritalin or adderall is an idiot.
     
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    LOL, yeah just blame the drug anyways. Man how dumb can people get.
     
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    You guys are pretty funny. I don't want to start arguing with anybody...just wanted to make a few things clear.

    If you take it consistently, then your body will develope tolerance to the dose, which makes it less "serious" or dangerous.

    These are the rates of adverse effects of Adderall. It may or may not be the drug itself. However, if another drug increases the dose of Adderall, then tachycardia due to Adderall was very likely the case.

    Cardiovascular: Tachycardia (up to 6% in adults), palpitation (2% to 4%)
     
  6. DrewP

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    Have you been diagnosed by a physician that you have ADD?

    What is your argument? The pills dont make you feel good? Then go to the doctor and get a different medication?

    And i'm glad no one took the "ADD is not real" bait. ADD is very much real and people that have it have a hard enough time without ignorant trolls and the doubt that is spread through misinformation
     
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    I was not trying to get in any argument either just wanted to show exactly how small these doses of drugs are. When people hear amphetamine they thing meth which is such a different world it isn't funny.
     
  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    Why wouldn't it kill you? If your talking about a user that has used it for so long that the tolerance is the only thing allowing him to experience that sort of rush, than i guess the strain being put on his heart would be a gradual but still deadly increase.

    Normal amphetamines make everybody's heart have to work more since they are stimulants, but I would imagine meth to have many times more the effect if you claim that it in fact is as much stronger the adderall.

    Yes I did have a drug related interaction if your consider antacids to be that. That was the most probably because they make your body retain it longer.

    This much i do know about meth, the methyl group allows it to penetrate further into the blood brain barrier unleashing all sorts of havoc. My pulse before I started used to be 83. Now its 101 resting. Apparantly my doctor thinks thats ok. There have been many sudden MI related deaths to meth.

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  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    What? Comprehension 101.

    I'm still on Adderall and it is in the low 100 range. It was around 110-120 for a couple of weeks untill i finally went to the ER when it went to 140.

    Why are you being so disrespectful to me? I'm telling you from experience, not something from wikipedia like you're doing, my pulse used to be in the 70-85 range.
     
  10. DrewP

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    still not understanding what your point is? You do know that, although it is paradoxical, amphetamines have a calming and suppressing effect on those that have ADD? It is hypothesized that amphetamines increase arousal when the initial arousal is low but will decrease arousal when the initial level of arousal is high.
     
  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    I started with focus b.c i started college out bad, and then did amazing after i started it aroud 10 mg, but I'm upto 20 which is hard maintaining and I am mostly taking it for the excited/optimistic feeling which i know is not good.

    I'm the sort of individual who doesn't like being dependent on anything.
     
  12. LosPollosHermanos

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    Yes, when i just take ritalin, usually 30 mg, i am a zombie. Adderall helps me focus, makes me happy, too happy...but I get my work done in a really timely manner.
     
  13. DrewP

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    Nobody likes being overly dependent "on anything". It seems like your misguided sense of dependency is sabotaging your sense of well being.

    most importantly, to reiterate, GO SEE A DOCTOR. Dont like what he has to say/ don't feel you are being treated properly? GO TO A DIFFERENT DOCTOR
     
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    Adderall isn't that bad. People take all sorts of meds to get by day to day. Some take beta blockers for anxiety before presentations, some take SSRI's for depression to get over a relationship, some take Viagra for the bedroom, some take steroids for the gym to get that athletic scholarship.

    When I was in medical school, kids used to routinely take 30 mg of Addy per day. My roommate once took 60 mg of Addy on the day before his final exams. There were other kids who used to take speed, amphetamines and even cocaine to get an advantage. I would say about 70% of the kids in med schools take this sort of stuff. I took about 2.5 mg per day, but then I realized it wasn't worth it, as my mind was getting blurred out. I didn't like how it would increase my dopamine levels in my system.

    But the general mindset is you do whatever it takes to make it. It doesn't matter the stigma associated with any pharmaceuticals. If you feel it helps you, take it. Do whatever it takes to succeed in life and make yourself happy.

    I can now function well without it even though I have ADD tendencies. Kids at my medical school would justify their increasing dosages of Addy, by saying it is only temporary and they wouldn't have to use it forever, especially when the book studies portion of the school was finished.

    That being said if you are taking just to get high, you probably need some help. Addy is meant for focusing and peak mental performance.

    Go watch the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster. They make a convincing argument for pharmaceutical supplementation. Probably the best documentary I've ever seen. Its not just about steroids but about pharmaceutical usage in general.

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