Long post but here goes. In my opinion, the difference has to do with the intense media attention given to sports stars in the US. There are a ton of American columnists, bloggers and reporters reporting and speculating on everything these athletes do and say. The sheer amount of coverage makes for a more entertaining experience, but a lot of times the information is wrong or incomplete, and the excess of information makes it hard to keep track. Most of the time, fans end up responding without knowing the big picture IMO, but it’s hard not to react with some emotion especially when it’s some sensational news about your favorite team. Secondly, I’m willing to bet U.S. athletes are more willing to speak against a team or a management than those in China or other Asian country. I also live in Asia (South Korea), and I rarely read about an athlete criticizing a coach or management, in public or private. It could be that Asian media are less willing to report such news and cause conflict. The reason for this could be cultural, but maybe they just want to remain on the good side of the team/player. Lastly, maybe it’s due to the market size, but I notice trades and contract disputes playing a bigger part in the NBA and other US sports than in Asian ones. Because of that, there’s more of a tendency in America to treat players as commodities, by both teams and fans. After all, why keep a possibly disgruntled player when you could trade him for something better? And it’s easier to be less than civil when you start seeing players as tradable pieces. It’s just business, after all. As for the nasty language of some of the posts, I think that has to do with Internet anonymity more than anything else. Sadly, I don’t think that’s culture specific. I pretty much find it everywhere.
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Well,let me guess,what does that 'follow the Rockets all the time' mean to you,maybe it just started with the moment Yao got drafted to be a Rocket.and then 2 years after,T-Mac got here in a trade that sent SF3 and Cat to the Orlando.I betcha you like what T-mac brought to this team the first couple of years right? And well,I could read Chinese,that ain't no biggie.As I could tell,some times Sina.com is much of a joke in my opinion.Yea,they do write something original,but most of the articles there are translated from websites in U.S,not even chronicle,usatoday or latimes,wherever they could get the news,they do translation part to put the news on the site. Oh,let me be clear,I'm one of Tracy fans,that doesn't mean I'm supportive of whatever T-Mac does,I do support him for his return to elite status.And sometimes I paid a visit to other Chinese sites,yea,like you mentioned,heaps of fans discredited T-mac as he talked too much,hated him because you guys believe whatever the news said about him.
What you replied is beyond the topic. I just wanted to be clear that wherever fans are, they could support or dislike TMAC. This is not a culture problem.
Is it possible to listen to that post game speech and not get excited. Hell I'm 44 and ready to put on the pads and go do some hitten after that. Team sports is about the team not the individual. Period. Can't play with them, can't coach with them, cant win with them!!!!
I agree with this part: it's nothing to do with American Culture I am also a Chinese and now live in the 2 culture. I dont like T-Mac's behavior either. The most important part is RESPECT. Respect your job, respect your co-workers, respect your bosses. Be a professional! You know the word: 怠工? 出工不出力？ (Laziness in the work is very dishonest to your boss ) Thats same in China. Is every close-door stuff always open to the public? Think about it! I think Rox organization is too honest. Let an employee hostage for such a long time. If they are not honest, just shut T-Mac up You forgot the most important part of T-Mac's case: last year is ok to be lazy, this year? He wants to get next big contract!!! There are same surgeries in other players, what happened to them? Are there so many drama caused by them? why is there such a big change? As an employee can u do whatever you want? Everything goes to MONEY Is T-Mac honest on this? Keep patient, my friend. Wait what he talks about Rox after he left in the future. We will know more
cos he's being paid 20mil over to sit down, shut up and listen to instructions. remember, he is still an employee of the Houston Rockets. Don't we listen to our bosses when we are work. if im being paid 20mil over i'd take instructions from Morey anytime. its simple logic. the problem with Tmac is he likes the attention. he's not really a team guy. does he even know the plays the current team is running and to say he will be coming back so early without consulting your employers is ridiculous. go to work on Monday and try the same stunt, not a wise thing with the current economic situation. its not an american culture to understand, its plain simple logic. look at Iverson and what he has done to his career, if Tmac keeps this up, he will taking the same road....
Oh right because being honest is such a valued trait in the Chinese culture right? Just look at the Chinese government, it's full of honesty. Look at the Chinese mainstream entertainment. You guys are so honest, you never steal other people's music and dance moves. So honest, you never copy other country products and try to sell it as your own. Never mind the chinese biteoff of starbucks, burger king, Wii, etc etc. Don't attack my culture and belittle us about honesty when every other culture is just as hypocritical. We hate Tmac because of the way he handles his situation. A sincere person wouldn't do half the **** he did if he cared for the organization, i.e Yao Ming. We like people to handle life ****s the way Yao Ming does.
Yo man, that's not American culture specialty. It has been seen everywhere. Internet prosperity nurtured considerable haters and lovers for every aspects. Even in hoopchina.com, there are huge TMAC lovers and haters. You should be simply categorized as either a lover or a hater. For lovers you can't comment any negative facts on TMAC, even just a joke, and vice versa. In their dictionaries, a person could not stand in the neutral position. The world is just that easy under such conception-You win a game and you are INVINCIBLE;if you unfortunately lose one and you are POWLESS. Couple of things should be stated here: 1. The NBA season has at least 82 regular games annually for each player. 2. Each player in NBA strives hard for game time before. 3. Before making stupid comments to players, make sure that stupid accident will not occur in your whole lifetime.
You claiming that announcing the surgery when he did to avoid getting traded wasn't a dick move? Getting traded isn't fun, but it's a fact of NBA life and you don't pull off jerkass stuff to avoid, for obvious reasons.
I've seen a couple times just watching Lakers versus Houston games where Kobe gets frustrated and quits on the game. I've seen him either walk off the court or get himself ejected when he doesn't think he can win the game. The only difference is Kobe is Kobe and he can do anything he wants and get away with it. Also, McGrady actually is foolish enough to admit it.
You know, this is stated constantly as though it were fact. It was a trade rumor, no more true than the trade rumors for Kevin Martin, or the one for Billups and Prince. Morey has NEVER said he was going to trade Tmac and no other team has admitted they were interested. At least with the Billups trade, we knew Detroit was interested. The only thing Morey EVER said about trading Tmac is that he was untouchable, then later that it would have to be a deal he can't refuse, yet certain "fans" likes to delude themselves into thinking the Rockets would trade him for junk if they could.
Winning just solves everything. Kobe was getting killed by the media when he threw Bynum and his teammates under the bus and demanded a trade to the Bulls. The entire Detroit Piston teams (Billups/Wallace/Wallace days) admitted to not playing to hard but they had already won a championship. Until Tmac has success in the playoffs, he will be like pre -World Series Champion A-Rod.
It was so sad that years ago we were discussing which one of them was better. And now, one won a champion while another is becoming just more than a drama queen I felt bad
One thing I'm curious about though is if any other country shares our evaluation style of players. Do they over exaggerate everything like we do? Some good examples of this: Aaron sucks! He needs to learn to pass! Ariza needs to learn to dribble! Yao can't rebound! Tmac is a cancer, nobody wants him! Tmac is better than Kobe. Kobe sucks! (you remember this don't you? I do.) We're doomed! Other teams are laughing at us!! (after losing to a playoff team.) We're unstoppable! Championship baby!! (one win after the loss above) Yao is soft as tissue. McGrady doesn't run. Rafer sucks. I hate Rafer. (Hey I'm glad we upgraded, but he's not THAT bad.) Chase is the best rookie this year! Seriously. Is this just an American thing or does everyone do this? Can't anyone be just good? decent? adequate?
