when you are as good a player as TMac there is a lot of expectation on you. because we haven't won a championship with him, people hate on him.
I follow Rockets all the time. China media not only copying/translating news, they DO write something themselves. They also sometimes spread rumors based on some "sources". As you said, I think you also need separate (not sepErate) fans. If you read the followed-up comments on those portal websites like SINA, you should know lots of fans dislike TMAC for any reason. Hope you did not distinguish normal fans just by like or dislike Tracy McGrady. All you can tell who are "TMAC fans" on it.
Not getting to play in your contract year because you estranged yourself from your team is worse than playing, and he'll probably be taking the reins, for the Nets and the Suns for less than 2 years. It was a dumb decision to take and Tracy has a solid record of saying and doing those kind of things.
People hate on T-mac and say he's "soft" and he's a "quitter" are r****ds. They have no evidence other than the fact that he decided to have microfracture surgery. Nobody here knows how it feels like to play through pain in the NBA.
He is paid 20 mil/year and naturally there are expectations going along with it. They may or may not be reasonable, but probably not hard to understand.
I am a fellow Chinese. TMac's problem is that he takes himself over the team. It's coach's decision to decide whether, when and how much a player can play. And if there's a disagreement, it should be worked out inside the locker room. Not through the media. TMac is like, I feel like I can't play even the doctor says I can, I'll shut it down. And the next day I feel like I can play again, you must play me. And he runs his mouth too much in the media. It's irontically his so called average teammates can actually win a series without him.
I'm an American living in China. I have to say, it is shocking to look at American discussion boards sometimes, from here in China. I just feel like "Man, Americans are not as nice as they think they are." So much nastiness. This board is pretty good. But the point is the negativity in general, I guess. I admit I've been hating on T-Mac. But that is because I actually don't trust him like the OP does. I don't think he plays with as much heart as the current Rockets. When his *heart* is 100%, not his knee, then he'll be ready. To get back to the American culture question, I do think America is pretty stressed right now, and there just a lot of bad feelings coming out, bad energy is radiating out. It could get worse. But so far Americans are handling things pretty well, I think. I mean, let's admit, Chinese people had some pretty bad behavior, in the 1960's, for example, and Germans had some pretty bad behavior too. Countries get "mental" under stress sometimes, and I think America is a little stressed with the economic and social uncertainty. Thank goodness things haven't gotten more aggressive than this.
I would say it is all about being a team player. Compare Yao to T-mac nobody here hates on Yao, he is respected by his team and people outside the team respect his attitude towards his team much more than T-mac's. Yao too has dealt with injuries over the years, but look at the heart the guy has displayed and how hard he takes his injuries and recovery. T-mac is all about T-mac, i believe the coaching staff realizes that and aren't willing to waste another season trying to get him to work within this system. T-mac is not on the same page with managment either, last year with his injury at the trade dealine and last week with his pronounced date to start his season. Even his own player called him out remember him Artest last year? This team we have today is special, look at the bond that the guys have together. I dont believe T-mac brings this to the team, you can say what you want but i personally dont believe he fits this team now. Do you really expect him to run off picks now, cut to the basket, play defense?
Agreed, Yao is much better than Tmac, especially as player, tmac is too much selfish, he need to dibble alot, but now we seldom to see one control the ball alot, and tmac's contract is expiring this year, he want to win another big contract, can anyone confirm he's back can make rockets better? so dont cheated by tmac, also I know alot of rox fans here still love tmac, he practised hard at Chicage, that need to appreciate, but the question is he practice is for the team or himself? only tmac knows
This is exactly why he_zhang_1126 is having issues here. Americans like Seth here is blatantly making up baseless claims about Tracy McGrady. Quit on the team? A lot of players wouldn't have even tried to play based on his condition but Tracy gave it a try. It's just unfortunate for all parties that it didn't work out and he couldn't contribute. Too bad Americans here like Seth are going to hate T-Mac no matter what he does. Just throw him under the bus despite all he's done for the franchise since the Francis trade. Zero loyalty from the American fanbase.
Yes, you are right. It's a culture thing. Americans are free to express yourself BUT NOT IN CHINA. Love or hate is just simple. Nothing wrong as a fan to love or hate a player. You could make any speech like comment, critic or blame, whatever. Also you are ready to be commented, blamed or ignored. As a Chinese, you have to think twice before speak up. You have to make sure your words are morally and politicaly correct. You have to say something which you don't truly believe or even a lie. That's Chinese culture. BTW, I'm not American. I'm from Hong Kong.
I think it has nothing to do with American culture. There are a lot of Chinese fans that hate Tmac as well.
Wow..we need more topics like this. Good to be back here after a long lay-off and find discussions like this going around. JeopardE made some very very good and objective points on the first page. On the whole, I have to agree that people nowadays tend to be seeking alot more quick gratification as a whole. This site is ground zero for staunch Rockets supporters, and the team obviously comes first to many of us. Maybe Americans in general do view players as mere employees who are paid to help the team win. But that much is an observation and I'm not sure how substantiable that is. Point is, if people do care about the team first, it is quite understandable that anything negative that detracts from the team winning will be amplified by its fanbase. As paying supporters (some, not all), I do suppose people in general have a right to aggrieved. Though that said, I don't think it's fair to hate on him as much as some here might have, but then again, few things in life are. We'll all be happier once he finally gets cleared to play, and plays like the T-Mac of old.
The OP's concern is not why Americans hate McGrady, it's why this whole McGrady thing is being handled by the fans to a personal level. From what I can tell here, the fans here are taking it personally. It's not about rockets and him anymore, it's about how his personal life sucks and how his new film is made to promote him and stuff like that.
