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Adelman Scola and the guards

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jopatmc, Nov 18, 2009.

  1. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

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    ..........need to figure it out.

    Scola is being attacked AFTER he starts his dribble. Then he flips it back out and they do not go to the quick repost. The spacing is messed up and there is always a defensive guard attacking his dribble when he is making his move. He has way too many turnovers and his shots are too contested and he's not getting enough shots because he is turning it over and throwing it back out on the rotation.
     
  2. ElPigto

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    He also needs to react quicker and pass it out of the double team. The problem is that he ends up getting double teamed and he panics then another player comes out of nowhere and he loses the ball.

    Definitely a spacing problem, but Luis also needs to learn how to pass out quicker out of the post before the second help defender comes.
     
  3. ibm

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    passing out of a double team isn't as easy as it seems. it's a skill to be learned. it took players like duncan and yao quite some time to learn. i guess landry and scola aren't used to double teams yet.
     
  4. LabMouse

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    They are the role players, not superstars, they may do all things we could ask for. Chase can improve his performs every day, but I do not think I can say this for others. I also see a decline perform in both Scola and Battier, hoping that it is just a short term thing.
     
  5. EssTooKayTD

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    Fool needs to learn to turn towards his right shoulder sometimes, he's like Zoolander.
     
  6. mrfirefly7

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    It's not necessarily a decline. It's just that Scola is getting more defensive attention from other team because there are no Yao, Tmac, or Artest.
     
  7. Cohete Rojo

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    I wish we had someone who could stand 20 feet away from the basket to take the pressure off our post players. Since Battier came to the Rockets our only outlets have been from 3. So predictable and a much harder pass to make than the outlet w/ a guy standing 18-20 ft.
     
  8. topfive

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    Olajuwon, too. That was the big turning point in Dream's career, when he learned to find the open man when he was double-teamed.
     
  9. steddinotayto

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    I haven't seen this enough but Adelman should start entertaining the idea of playing Andersen and Scola together.
     
  10. pmac

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    1. Scola must learn how to pass out of the double

    2. We only have two guards on the active roster. Ariza (a SF) is being played out of position almost the entire game. He can pass but he doesn't have the ball handling to put the necessary pressure on the defense.

    3. The Scola post up seems like an obvious feature to this offense. What were they working on in the offseason? This should have been perfected by now.
     
  11. Seth

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    Scola is fine.
     
  12. saleem

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    I think his international duties have prevented him from working on getting better. I realize that he is 29,and unathletic which are obvious limitations,but if he stayed in Houston and worked on defense with Chuck and on jumpshooting,he would be doing better right now.
     
  13. rockets2

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    You mean Fine or you oh wow damn that mans mighty Fineeeeeeee :p
     
  14. ibm

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    this international play duty thing is a bit overstated. nba season ends in or before may for most players, and there are 4-5 months in between 2 seasons. it's not like in that period, they play international ball like crazy every day. it's usually a couple of training camps and tournaments. plus, how do you know scola didn't do a lot to improve his skills, etc.?
     
  15. Seth

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    He is fine, he basically is what we all think he is. Clearly some understand basketball different than others. I don't expect Scola to be a great dunker, nor a great shot blocker. I expect him to have a variety of moves, good range, and be a good positional defender. I value those things a lot.
    He is a hell of a closer for Argentina on a pick n pop play we use a lot, clearly his most consistent midrange shot is the one after he puts the screen.
    Rox didn't use him a lot that way, Rafer and TMac were the only ones to use him that way.
     
  16. saleem

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    I know he is a hard worker,but I feel working out in Houston may have helped him out more than international play/practice. It would also have given him some rest as well.
     
  17. rockets2

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    I was joking lol.... actually i think scola dosent get enough space to operate whatsoever. there should be more of him posting up ISO of him because what he dose well he extracts fouls. he is a very wily customer. he knows how to use he's body to either draw foules or to score.
     
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    20 and 16 (7 offensive boards!), 3 assists, a block, and only 2 turnovers. Considering how many turnovers the guards had, 14 if you include Ariza with Brooks and Lowry, I think Luis managed to have an OK game. :p ;)
     
  19. DaFranchise03

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    He knows if he passes it out, that he will never get it back.

    Not even Yao would get it back after reposting. Rockets are one of the worst teams when it comes to spacing and feeding the post. One of the main problems is having the 5'8 pg trying to pass it down low. Brooks cant even see over his defender 90% of the time.
     
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    Tonight they were reposting Scola quite a bit, and it helped (no surprise there!). I think Ariza did several times. I'll have to watch the game again to be sure. Ariza, with his length and skill set, is a very good at passing into the post. I think Yao will love the guy, especially when Ariza realizes that he doesn't need to shoot 19 times when his shot isn't falling.
     

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