Who gets more credit -- Adelman or Morey?

I really don't see the genius part in Morey. Tweaks, second rounders, cheap bargains, role players are not going to get the job done.

 

I'd like to remind everyone that voted for Adelman; Isiah Thomas is NOT a myth.

Please look at the carcass formerly known as the Knicks.


P.S. Poor Mike D'Antoni

 

Put Adelman in Knicks, they will be a team and will be better than current Rockets.

 

So what? The same applies for Morey. Just because you have talent on a team does not guarantee wins. Some coaches are much, much less effective than Adelman. Adelman is labeled a "player's coach" for a reason.

The most appropriate answer would be both.

 

Shane battier is the reason of our success. He such a good guy. He does the dirty work.

 

I chose the cop out for the first question, but for the 2nd I think Adelman is more valuable because I think Morey is more replaceable.

 

Rick is who I picked because he can get the most out of a bunch like this than any NBA coach I know. I like Morey and all but do you really think that these same players (mostly lowly picks) would have the same results under 3/4s of the current NBA coaches?

But his problem is that this is his style and putting guys like Yao, Tracy and even Lebron in the mix messes up his O because Rick is all about team play. The super stars have too much game to not go 1 on 1 sometimes (most of the time).

 

how do you define success? 50 wins? 40? 30?

 

Uhhh did you miss the part about fielding a competitive team (a playoff team in the West in my eyes) despite missing your two best players that at one point were critical in the team's success? We're playing without 55% of our payroll. Think about that. How many other GMs could pull that off? To go from being completely dependent on Yao/T-Mac to being a solid team without either one is nothing short of incredible.

 

JVG wouldn't know what talent was unless he was clinging to it's legs as it was stomping him.

 

What I am trying to get at is in the nba, just like nfl, coaching is huge and can't be underestimated. Like the example I gave, adelman would have memphis,clippers, or a host of other teams in the same position as the rockets. Had gsw been patient, he wouldve turned that program around as quick as he did with sacramento. Krause said organizations wins championships and to a degree I agree, but the coach is a huge difference maker in getting players to accept their roles to maximize the team.

When Adelman took over this jvg based team they won 50+ games. How many coaches can win and develop players at the same time? How many coaches in this league would have this team 6-4 with 2 all stars sitting on the bench? River has a ring which is great, but he has 2 19 game losing streaks on his resume'. To morey's credit, he replaced a really good coach with a really good coach. He has also done a good job of revamping the roster to suit adelmans stylye, but adelman is the the dude. Starting chuck hayes at center in place of yao and urging ariza to be more aggressive is worth its weight in gold. I would imagine if adelman was here when shane first got here his urging would help shane be more assertive offensive instead of jvg just telling shane to do nothing.

 

It means Morey still has 55% work to do. It is not done. It is too early to label him as genius.

A GM should give his coach a 100% team, not 45%.

It is Adelman who is making wonders out of a less than half team.

 

I expect 50 without T-Mac and Yao. Maybe a little less if T-Mac comes back.

 

I've said this before.

Morey is just a good but not great GM before he brings us a superstar.

Adelman is the man.

 

Morey is great but I'm going to give more credit to Adelman as he is dealing with this team on a day to day basis.

 

Like I said, this is really a toss up. We are very lucky to be able to have both guys on board.

I side with Morey because I believe the GM has ultimately more influence to team success in the long run. If you think coaching is underrated, I say management is even MORE underrated. Just look at teams like Memphis, Knicks, Clippers, Nets, and yes, our beloved MJ's Bobcats. And then look at organizations like the Spurs and the Pistons, and recently the Rockets.

A coach can only do with what is dealt to him. Most teams win because they have good players, not good coaches. Phil Jackson couldn't do much after Shaq left the Lakers. He could only start winning big when they got Gasol.

That said, if Adelman can win a title with TMac and Yao still on this team, I might change my vote.

 

Kupchak brought in Ariza and Gasol for very little prices. Way to go Morey.

 

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I voted Morey,Adelman did perfect work considering what we have,but Morey is always the special one for this rox since his first day here.

We are lucky to have both of them!