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Who gets more credit -- Adelman or Morey?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Nov 16, 2009.

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Who gets more credit for our success?

  1. Rick Adelman

    89 vote(s)
    22.9%
  2. Daryl Morey

    89 vote(s)
    22.9%
  3. They compliment eachother (cop out)

    211 vote(s)
    54.2%
  1. BrooksBall

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    What are your answers, durvasa?
     
  2. TeamUSA

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    Who else, it's on TMAC.
     
  3. durvasa

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    I liked how another poster put it. It is a "chicken and egg" problem.

    Accordingly, I picked option 3. Cop out.
     
  4. Entropy

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    This thread is very warm. And gooey.
     
  5. BrooksBall

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    Adelman has achieved a high level of success under different GMs in different organizations with different sets of players.

    As much as we all love Morey and as interesting as his innovative methods may be, he is still a relatively unproven commodity.

    Adelman has proven over decades to be an elite NBA coach.

    Morey is still making his case.

    As of right now, I'll go with the proven commodity but that could change as Morey's track record grows. I do agree that an elite GM is probably more valuable than a similarly elite coach since I believe that winning organizations are built from the top down.
     
  6. LittleWilly

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    I voted Morey, only because he was here first. Fact is both Morey and Adelman are doing one hell of a job keeping this team competitive with the 2 stars (and half of the team's salary) not playing.
     
  7. redao

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    Is not it part of Morey's fault? How can he justify his work while wasting most of his boss' money on injured overpaid useless stars?
     
  8. Artesticles

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    Morey. Adelman's done a good job, but I feel other coaches such as JVG would have done well here as well. Morey's work is truly unique.
     
  9. ibm

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    who gets the credit for our success? what success?
     
  10. LewLLOYD

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    Ha! Great question.

    The media does play both sides of the fence.
    On one hand saying (1) we have lousy players that Adelman has overachieving, and on the other hand saying (2) Morey has found all these gems in the draft.

    Could it be both?
    Maybe the gems need the right coaching environment to succeed?

    I love these players, and that these players are playing together, I think, is partially Morey, and partially due to Yao and TMac's injury proneness. And I also think Adelman's style is ideally suited for them.

    I copped out in the poll, but if pushed, I'd credit Morey and JVG over Adelman, but JVG for recruiting some of the players. I do like Adelman for this team over JVG. But I like JVG's post game conferences better.
     
  11. Entropy

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    If JVG was coaching the team, Chase Budinger and David Andersen would never see the light of day playing-time wise. Instead, our roster would be filled with washouts from the New York knicks. Also, whenever the opposing team gains some momentum, a frantic time out will be called that will lead to lack of confidence within the players. Our plays will be static and set, and opposing teams will have no problem figuring our plays and countering.

    After a good win, JVG would be wringing whats left of his hair out, obsessing over the small details that were missed in the game, brooding in his office after ripping any rocket other than Tmac for their lack of defensive intensity.

    During ever press conference we will hear nothing from JVG but adulation for "the greatness of Tmac."
     
  12. redao

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    JVG failed. JVG sucked. JVG was fired. JVG can not find coaching job.

    yet, JVG is better. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Easy

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    This is a hard one. But I refuse to cop out. So I pick Morey.

    In the long run, the GM will contribute more to shaping the team than the coach.

    That said, I do think that they complement each other well. Here are the reasons:

    1. Adelman is good at running an offense that requires smart more than physical talent. He thrives on balanced attack rather than focused attack.

    2. Morey is good at finding smart players who are undervalued because of their lack of physical talent.

    3. Morey's scouting system catches value rather than certain types of players.

    4. Adelman is an open-minded coach, i.e. he can adapt to different types of players.
     
  14. leebigez

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    I don't know how this is even close. Put adelman in memphis or with the clippers and they're in the playoffs. Put hollins or dunleavy as head coach on this team and they're sure fire lotto land. I give morey credit for hirng a great coach and rebuilding the roster to the coach, but in a league with young and talented players, coaching makes a huge difference. If adelman left and went back to portland that team would be so much better than it is now.
     
  15. RoxBeliever

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    This season Houston is spelled T-E-A-M. So I voted for both of them. I don't see it as a cop-out, only a recognition that both of them are working well together. The Houston organization is humming along fine, and I think that rubs off on the players.
     
  16. Dei

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    Who the **** cares, they're on the same team?
     
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    I don't know how Adelman does it, but our Rockets play their hearts out every single game. Morey has definetly contributed, but most of the credit should go to Adelman.
     
  18. crimmy88

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    Shouldnt have added that third option, imo :p

    For me though, it has to be Rick and his staff. I mean who wouldve expected that after 1 year, Carl Landry would be jumpshooting from 15 feet and then learn post moves a year after? or have Yao shoot from 18-20 feet range from time to time? the way Rick and his staff developed our players into more complete ones is really astounding.
     
  19. BEAT LA

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    I voted Morey *now leads it 40-39* because he found so many gems. Buddinger and Andersen kept his streak going. The Ariza signing was nice.

    The whole Landry (one year) contract fiasco is a blessing in disguise. Sure the Rockets overpaid him for a year or two, but it set a fair value precedent for the rest of the players. Imagine if Morey gave him two years. He would have probably received a 4 year, $24 million deal from someone this past off season.

    I commend Ricks work, but Morey deserves a gold star.

    Is that a question? Yes they are on the same team.
     
  20. bingfei236

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    Well, it depend on what you look on, honestly, Rox has no chance whatsoever to top last year success. I rather take the bad record to take the higher draft pick. Are we playing well? yeah, huge credit to Adlman and Morey. But It doesn't make difference for a team wants champion. Right now enjoy the game and Pros.
     

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