[Random Trade] Unspectacular (But Possibly High Reward) T-Mac Trade

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baske...sh-has-2010-on-his-mind-not-iverson-1.1576992

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/paul_forrester/11/10/brown.notes/

 

I agree Kirk Hinrich could be a good player for the Rox. Only problem is wouldnt the situation be pretty similar here as in Chi. Do you think he overtakes AB for the starting PG spot cuz I dont want a 8-9 million a year backup. If he doesnt start at PG where does he start cuz Ariza and Battier fit nicely as well.

Still it is a better thought out scenario then everyone who says "let Tmac expire and Morey will sign 23 million dollars worth of players", even though that cant happen.

They key to trading Tmac is to get talent in return rather then nothing. Hinrich is at least somewhat talented.

 

we know the rockets want to trade mcgrady, but ONLY FOR THE RIGHT DEAL. if the right deal never comes, mcgrady is going to stay and play here. and from the looks of it, morey doesn't seem to be impressed by any of the deals so far. he has stated numerous times through his interviews that he wants an established all-star or emerging one (i would assume he meant in terms of what he wants for mcgrady).

this is why it's funny to hear people claim morey is pumping up mcgrady . tmac's status is well-known in the league (hell, he's a superstar in name after all). they know who tmac is as a player and how he is as a player. players chit chat all the time with other players when they play. and i'm sure GMs chit chat with other GMs all the time. EVERY team knows of tracy's weaknesses and health right now. and they know his value: LOW.

most likely, tracy will play his first game this season as a rocket.

 

hmm...sounds like he should be the most coveted player in basketball. or you're confusing him with kobe bryant. oh, or maybe you are grossly overrating his talents and value.

guess what? he's served all those same purposes that you just listed during his career on a consistently mediocre bulls team while watching his minutes wane for the past 5 years. go figure. like shane battier, kirk hinrich is a player that a morey crone would tell everybody how great he is and the rest of the world doesn't understand how amazing and valuable he is but you do. however, any high school dropout who is a moderate nba fan can tell you that he is an unnecessary component and/or add for a team with championship aspirations (which is what we are). and the latter would be correct. you win championships with stars, it's that simple. not that tmac is one anymore, but unloading him for a couple dime-a-dozens certainly does NOTHING, and i mean NOTHING for our title chances. we are playing for rings, not "who can acquire the most moreyball players?".

i didn't read past the first page of this thread, but i'm sure many posters pointed out that you said acquiring a knicks 2012 draft pick would be the biggest part of this silly trade for us. if you are assuming we don't sign a big free agent this offseason, and we are already looking towards 2012, you may as well come up another trade involving moving Yao Ming, because you are putting this team in rebuilding mode.

 

Bima,

Not that I don't like Hinrich, but it doesn't look like he's that huge an upgrade over the existing guys, who are being paid a fraction of his cost. If the Rockets are playing with a replacement-level point guard (e.g. Kevin Ollie), I can see him as money well spent. Given the current team, I just can't see Morey and Alexander spending those extra millions to make what is, at best, a modest improvement. They's probably want to save the salary flexibility for some one with a bigger impact (in a trade or FA signing).

And by the way, I agree about Kevin Martin. He might do very little besides scoring... but damn does it do it well.

 

i should have phrased that differently. i should have said, "you may as well put the rockets in rebuilding mode and trade Yao, because by your design all we are doing is moving laterally rather than forward, and we'd be attempting to continue to field a competitive team with no real hopes of getting to the next level".

we've all seen enough of that crap with the astros and uncle drayton and his lackeys. les and co. are better than that. we got past the hurdle of the first round last year, and now that that's behind us, i can confidently say that all he cares about is his next championship. having a "very competitive team" should be meaningless to him and all of us at this point (this season's freeroll being a fun and surprising little exception of course).

oh, and Count Chocula. Count Chocula dumped his chocolatey corn bits and sugary marshmallows all up in my bowl this morning.

 

Bima,

We can have only $9M even if we let Tmac walk away, so the trade is the best way to improve the team, right?

Someone has proposed a trade of Scola, Lowry (or Books) for Bosh, I think it makes a sense.

 

Not if you're Bryan Colangelo. Why would he want put his rep on the line to be this seasons Chris Wallace?

 

Bima,

now that pops is out.. what are the possibilities for netting Gortat? I know that there are some trade restrictions in place till december.. but who are the players who would be involved if we net Gortat ?

thanks.

 

It is safe to say at this moment, Tyreke has more potential than Kevin Martin.

 

Not if we can take that $9 million and get Ginobli.

DD

 

I'm hoping for a fallout between Ginobili and the spurs front office. If he commits to the 2010 Worlds who knows? With their frontcourt depth maybe Splitter can be thrown in some kind of deal.

 

Awful trade, we have two good young pg and a good sg in Chase....no need for kirk.

 

Not for Toronto, they are worried about him resigning.

They might have the same worries with another 1 year left guy.

 

between that and this, Someone has proposed a trade of Scola, Lowry (or Books) for Bosh, I think it makes a sense.

I would take the trade any day.

A good trade in hand is better then any if's later on down the road.

 

He explained in his OP, Lowry is not worth what his minimum will be for resigning (above 6mil).

Secondly I think Kirk is like Lowry and Brooks combined. He can scored and defend. He has both of their strengths. Not to mention height. lol who knows maybe he can get the ball to Yao.

 

Well said Carl, Hinrich is not even a sideways move at best. Alot of people in hear are completely infatuated with Hinrich and I just don't understand why. I only see the rockets trading Tracy's contract if its for an impact player from a team that's hurting financially and preferably for a big man. If not they keep him for the season and weigh their options for free agency. Hinrich has got to be the most overpaid and overrated player in the league, he's currently getting a million dollars for every point he averages for the season.