It looks like Chase is more than enough of a replacement to Von

who were you hoping to trade tmac for?

 

Chase is our best player at runing the lanes, curling towards the bucket and beating he's man off the screen. thats why he gets so many open looks. overrall he is our best player at off the ball movement.

 

Von Wafer couldn't hold Air Bud's jock. Seriously, there no comparison, not in my opinion. The guy is the steal of the draft and we've got him.

 

Agree to disagree because I don't think Durant is lazy on defense at all. I'll also say he's on a whole other level than Chase.

Chase has to learn a lot of things, how to fit into a team etc etc. He's learning them fast.

Durant been dropping numbers since he came into the NBA. He just needs to learn how to be a leader, like Melo had to learn and all the other greats today like Dirk, CP3, Kobe.

 

That's true Durant has been paddig his stats ever since his rookie year. But how many wins has sonics/okc got each year? Personal stats has been greatly exagerrated, you put Aaron Brooks on that team and give him the green light he's gonna drop 20+ night in night out. Ariza never averaged more than 10 in his past 6 years in the NBA now he's a 19ppg scorer.

Still I do agree that durant will probably be better than chase through out their career, but I just don't buy all the talent talk, in my book chase isn't far behind anyone in this league when it comes to overall basketball talent.

 

uh...I can't believe you're comparing a guy who comes in off the bench and has hit a few shots with one of THE stars in the nba right now. durant faces entire defenses based on stopping him and he still scores at will. you're being a bit too much of a homer here.

 

Von on the defensive end was absolutely a zero and did not even effort on that end and although Chase is not thought of a defensive player he is young and has a chance to develop his skill defensively. Just a smarter basketball player.

 

Then homer I am.
Again let me make it clear, my intention wasn't to compare those two players. The whole point is to give props to morey for choosing such a terrific player while seriously questioning all the "bold" talk about someones talent level.
if talent was base on Scoring at will in one on one situation then and1 players would have dominated the league ages ago. There are so many more factors that defines a player's ceiling than just athleticism/ball handling/shooting etc.

 

Well that team has been horrible talent-wise for a long time. That's like all those years people said about Andre Johnson that he puts up numbers because Texans had no one else to go to...while that was true...he's still putting up numbers.

It's hard to compare the two because Durant is their franchise player, Chase is just a role player here.

I understand what you're saying, Chase is a good player. I'm not taking anything away from him. Chase does have the potential to be a future All-star in this league...

But Durant is a franchise player, he's played like one. Yeah his team hasn't won too many games, but sometimes that is just the growth that he has to take with the team.

There was a period when the Hornets completely were bad and CP3 was doing everything he could, same with most franchise players. They are drafted into horrible situations.

 

every player in the nba has talent. you WERE directly comparing budinger to durant and westbrook. if you brought that up to ANY nba gm including morey they would laugh you out of their office.

 

nope i wasn't. If I ever did it was regarding to this ONE game and their impat to the game. Both of durant and Westbrook were big MINUS and chase was +16.

Then again, it's one game. I don't doubt morey wud choose durant over chase, and I can gurantee you durant wudnt be playin like he did in okc if he was in rockets.

 

Yeah okay, and I'd love for you to tell me how those two were minuses in this game. Are you SERIOUSLY talking about +/-? You realize that is directly affected by the SCORE of the game right? Not to mention you might want to get your facts straight if you are; chase was +/- 0.

Earlier you said they were taking ill-advised shots. K, so who would you rather shoot them? Durant was 50% from the field and Westbrook was 56%, they combined for 7 turnovers after having the ball almost the entire game between them.

Listen, you can say what you want. The problem is; you're wrong.

 

He actually has alot more potential than just a Von Wafer fill in. This guy could be a really good player one day the likes of Steve Smith or Allan Houston.

 

On the Westbrook comparisons. I think you could compare Budinger to Westbrook but just not Durant right now. He certainly could end up better than Westbrook though.

 

I have westbrook on my fantasy team, look at his stats for a bit. Keep in mind he is a second year player, then think about your post. I think yall are overrating chase a little at this point. he's nice, don't get me wrong. he obviously has a decent ceiling too, but think about what you're saying -- we're only 6 games in.

 

I agree.

Westbrook has been a hell of a player as well.

Chase is a good player. Right now he's nowhere near Durant and Westbrook. Both guys mean everything to their teams.

I know one thing...Chase has outplayed Hardin the #3 pick this year. If he keeps this up then he's at least in the running for ROY.

 

One thing that surprises everyone is that we can really score with the same efficiency in this season. Run and Gun will create more possessions but it does not necessarily mean we can achieve a higher efficiency.

Von can create his own shots to a certain extent. Chase is a perfect fit to the current system. Moreover, Chase is so natural that his game looks so easy. No need to do all these kinds of Von Kobe moves to score Plus he can pass.

 

I dont have to. I already know he can average about 14 a game with minutes just like Westbrook can on a team he has to be the star on while Budinger is just a 6th man doing this. Budinger definately could average 14 a game and more if he had to like Westbrook does. Ariza is the starter and so is Shane though. I think in a couple of years your argument might look backwards compared to mine or they will be close enough to directly compare them in stats and production. Budinger more so in the offensive categories. Yes I would take Westbrook now but we already have a guy that averages more than him starting in points per game at the point. That guy is averaging more also while his backup gets more minutes than Westbrooks backup does. Just saying.

 

Well would you take Aaron Brooks over Derrick Rose also?

 

Nope but Brooks over Westbrook I might. Westbrook never beat the Lakers in the playoff games before or even went to them and won a series as the starter. As far as I know Brooks has never been the main guy on a losing team but is the second leading guy on the Rockets in our 4-2 start.