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Daughter too "westernized"...so dad hits her with car

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RoxSqaud, Oct 30, 2009.

  1. T-Slack

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    I read on a site the reason why her father ran her over was because Hindu people, in their culture they tend to have arraigned marriage and the girl changed her mind and opted out of one. Whats F'd up is that they said people in her Dad's culture would agree with his actions
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Actually I'm not Chinese. I just think it's interesting where different things come from. Oddly enough the Chinese have had a roller coaster ride. Some of the things they invented were forgotten there, and had to be re-introduced later on.
     
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    Thanx brah.
     
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    lol, they are Iraqi immigrants.
     
  5. Mathloom

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    YugoRocketsFan,

    I'm interested in how you classify races/people.

    You say Libyans are Arabs in Africa, which makes sense.

    You also attribute "most" inventions to whites/Europeans. Do you mean White Europeans? Because European is not exclusively white. Nor is white exclusively European.

    I think what would clarify your statement more would be if you gave us a quick list of the different kinds of people you are ranking when playing "White/European" at the top. From the conversation here, I can see that African and Arab are two others. I think you consider Chinese and Indian to be another two.

    In the bigger picture, your statement means absolutely nothing FYI. For example, during the Islamic Empire, the Arabs could make the same claim. During the Roman Empire times, they could make the same claim. The title you are stating here as fact, even if true, is a function of having economic and millitary dominance. Note that, today, millitary dominance is directly technology-based. However, in the past, sheer numbers or strategy factored into millitary dominance as well.

    But still, it would help us understand your stance better if you gave us an unranked list of different groups. I'm assuming at this point that you're either not bothered or not able to produce any proof for your initial claim other than "prove me wrong".
     
  6. DaDakota

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    No, it wouldn't.....it would be bad overall.

    :D

    DD
     
  7. Ari

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    Yeah the White race thing is a big problem of course. I promise you the average Russian would be wide-eyed at the idea of someone grouping them with western europeans as just White. They dont see themselves that way, nor do most east europeans see themselves as White, nor do the Turkic people see themselves as White. That term only makes sense in America, where we classify the two major ethnic groups as White and Black. It is not a real racial category though.
     
  8. Lynus302

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    I don't know about that: Peter the Great took great strides to make Russia a European country out of the relative backwater it was before his time. And the Russians are descended from the Rus who were descended from vikings who made their way from the Nordic countries and kept going east. If there is an ethnic break, it is between what we currently consider the boundary between western Europe and eastern Europe/old Soviet bloc.
     
  9. YugoRocketsFan

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    Classify em by the way they look. All whites are of European descent and I mentioned White/European a lot of times, everything I said means on Ethnic/race group not geographical location. My ranking goes like this in term of amount of inventions.

    1. White (European /US, Canada, Russia etc.)
    2. Asian (China, Japan, Korea, etc.)
    3. Arab (North Africans, Egyptians, Algerians, Tunisians, Saudis, Lebanese etc.)
    4. Hindu (Indian obviously)
    5. Blacks (African descent)
     
  10. YugoRocketsFan

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    Russians are white, they are Slavic, they are no different in race compared to Serbians, Croats, Czech, Slovakian, Poles, Ukranians, etc. Russians defenitely seen themselves that way, watch some of the documentaries on skinheads in Russia (crazy bastards), they constantly talk about saving the white race and attack anyone who looks dark (Armenians, Caucasusians-------(people from Georgia, Azerbaijan), Central Asians (Kazakhs, Tajik, Uzbeki, etc.) If you called them anything but white during a trip to Russia, they'd drive you to Siberia naked and leave you there, cause the Russians are crazyyy.
     
  11. RoxSqaud

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    Clutch invented this forum.....hes white.....so thats pretty much thread/ right there right?.....
     
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    To gain influence and change things from within, in some cases. Take the good and change the "bad".
     
  13. yuantian

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    you do realize that China invented gun powder, compass, and among other important things that were passed to Europe via Persia, right? i wonder what they teach you guys there.

    NVM. it's been mentioned before. i just think people should learn more about other cultures.
     
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    Yes, we have fair skin, but we do NOT group ourselves with the French, Germans, British, Italians or Spaniards. Russia copied some of the modernization methods employed in western europe, but that does not mean they are west european.

    Ok, trust me I know ALL there is to know about the skinheads in Russia :D, my point is those guys see Russians as a superior white-skinned race to their neighbors to the south, but that does not mean they see themselves as Anglo-Saxons in the same way Americans see themselves.

    Hey! I resent that :D
     
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    Ancient Chinese and Indian civilations were the crest of the world for 1000's of years - leading the world in both technology, culture, and scientific thinking and research. Philosophers, architecture, and in understanding of medicine and the body.

    Then it was the Arabs. And then, the Europeans.

    Always the civilizations that had the riches, the wealth and so forth...

    Yes Western civilizations were dominant from the 1600's through the late 20th century - but today, the world sees technology once again having shifted away to be a more global phenomenon. Japanese, Chinese, Indian scientists are all making headway.

    To suggest some sort of white superiority is just weird.
     
  16. Mathloom

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    Sir, America is not and never was a "White" country. It was originally ruled by Native Americans, discovered by Spaniards, and then inhabited by people from the United Kingdom who brought along with them "Blacks" (as you put it). It never was and certainly never will be a "White" country. The only Ethnic origin which can be claimed in the United States is Nativa American. Everyone else is from somewhere else, especially with this "looks" method you are using. I believe the same is true for Canada and Australia and their indigenous people.

    You must be missing some people here.

    First of all, Jewish people are Semitic. They don't appear on your list so I'll assume you mistakenly meant to lump them into "Arab". They are not white and they are not Arab. They do historically trace back to the same anscestors.

    Half the original Arab race is white, and you can see that in Lebanon/Syria/Palestine/Jordan today. It is nonsense to me that this was imported from Europe because civilization was born either in Iraq (Mesopotamia) or Africa as far as we know, right? Did all the white people move north? Obviously, no, as you can tell from (for example) the "look" of the President of Yemen.

    Also, original North Africans are Berber. They are not Arab, not even in look. North Africa was arabicized fairly recently. They did not even speak Arabic till very recently. They spoke Amazighi. Also, I assure you that the Pharoahs were not ethnically Arab nor spoke Arabic.

    What about the South Americans? Native Americans?

    Spaniards? They are in Europe but don't look Eurpean. Do you put them in the Arab or White category based on "the way they look"? If South Americans trace back to Spaniards somehow, then why do you place Spain in Europe among the "White" look? How did the change happen? When?

    It seems you like to draw the line somewhere, and that line is "look". More disturbingly, despite your denial of geographic linkage, you have listed the "looks" with geographical reference. FYI, "White" does not originate in any of the countries you listed between the brackets for it. If you had stated something like "Incidentally, it seems that people with a whiter complexion have invented more things than others." That would be a valid discussion. But you didn't and obviously, many of us are skeptical of your intention. I hope we are wrong.

    But once again, for your general information, the statement is worthless. Every recent invention is linked to an invention before it. You'll find that almost nothing was invented without building on an invention from the previous dominant economic and millitary force. I.E., behind every invention today, you will find an Arab, Chinese, Indian, Persian, etc invention.

    Furthermore, inventions are exponential in nature. Each invention will spawn several new inventions. Each discovery of a field will spawn several other fields. It is impossible that those with whiter complexion (since they happen to be powerful in recent history) don't dominate the field of invention. It would be a miracle for them not to, given the beautiful inventions in place when caucasian-majority countries first began coming into power. So for every Chinese invention (gun powder), the next dominant millitary force will create inventions (Rifle in Russia, Automatic gun and Revolver in America, etc..). This makes sense because, currently, Africa and the Middle East have bigger problems right now. It's also evident in that China is a major force in technological advancement now that it is economically and millitarily secure.

    It's clear then that the value of invention is in what comes after it and what came before it. Not the quantity, but the quality of drawing from past invention, and spawning awesome future invention. In reality, probably the best inventions are those which have no past but a tremendous future.
     
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    I've been skimming through this thread but I had to respond to these blatantly ignorant comments. You are aware that many of the technologies that allowed Europeans to dominate the World from the 15th to the 20th Centuries was invented in Ancient Asia. Gun powder and steel being two of the most prominent. The basis of the financial system, paper money and credit, was invented in Ancient China. For that matter paper was invented in Ancient China. The Ancient Chinese also were the first to use coal and natural gas for heating.

    Edit: I see FB beat me to it but really anyone with even a highschool knowledge of history would be able to tell you that the Ancient Chinese invented gun powder and a lot of other things that we take for granted today.
     
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    Nope. If a black man named Hakeem Olajuwon hadn't invented the Dream Shake Clutch wouldn't have the idea to invent this forum.
     
  20. LCII

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    Earlier you said Whites were first followed by Arabs. Now you've changed your mind. I can see you're just an impressionable idiot or a teenage boy.

    Whites have been responsible for a lot of inventions in the recent era but that hasn't always been the case. Inventions are simply a good sign of which empire/country is on top of the world. In human history it goes like this:
    ??? -> China -> Middle East -> Romans/Greeks -> Medieval Europe/Feudalism -> Great Britian/Imperialism/Industrial Rev. -> USA/Japan/Democracy/Capitalism -> ??China?? (future)
     
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