Is anyone else just pissed off at JWill? Just at how disgustingly talented he is, and how he's far too stupid to realize it and take advantage of it? That guy is legitimately dense. He could be as good as AI, but he refuses to listen to anyone. You guys think Jerry West can get through his 8-inch-thick skull, or do you think he will be a walking failure for the rest of his career?
I don't think that Williams is as talented as you seem to think he is. I think that if he put his mind to it, he could become much better, but I simply don't think that he is AI-type player.
A guy with his talent shouldn't have a lot of forced turnovers, but most of his turnovers aren't forced... If there's one man he can respect and can get through his thick brain, it should've been his father. But since Jerry is around the same area and have won a lot, I guess it's up to Jerry. It also needs to be pointed out that he's had some social problems and his mentality isn't up to par... He can be a top ten point guard if he was committed to winning and to his team, but for now, he's just an underachieving selfish punk.
hey yeah i do believe mr. williams is as talented as mr. iverson but im not really pissed at him because sometimes i do want to see an exciting game and with his style he makes it cool, but for rite now hes not in the league that iverson is in. I think rite now he is just mad that he is not with the kings, and has a very young team. Regarding to j.will who will be better the black one(jay), or the white black guy (jason). Another thing do you all think that eminem and jason hang out since they are practically black.
As talented as AI? They have different strengths. Jason Williams is nowhere near AI in terms of athletic ability (explosiveness) or finishing ability. However, he does have amazing court vision. That said, he's nowhere close to the Iversons, McGradys, and Kobes of the league...he's waaay way back, and only part of it has to do with his mental approach to the game.
"Another thing do you all think that eminem and jason hang out since they are practically black." Funny.
Some players aren't made to be "Kobe Bryants" or the Next "Jerry Wests". There in the league to make money and try to do the best for their team and provide for their families. Whether it be 14.6 ppg and 9 assists a night or 30 ppg and 8 rebounds a game. Not everyone will be getting the production value that Kobe has and is giving his Laker team. I agree Napster. They (AI and JWILL) are in totally different spectrums of the game and of the NBA that you can't look at them as even being equal as of yet. I guess I just have to defend the guy since I'm a fan of his game. But what fans of any particular player that is being "talked badly about" is we know what the player is really about and it's hard bringing that front forth if he has such a bad rep. By far, Jason is not a bust. He wasn't #1 or #2 pick but he was a lottery choice and that carries a lot of baggage. He's holding his own now with over a dozen ppg, 9 assists, 2 steals, and not to mention a career 3pt. shooting % of 29.8. But what some people don't know is that some nights Jason is just totally on fire and invincible. In those cases, his team can't really get involved, whether they win or not, and whether it be Sidney or Rick(previous coach) they don't really want that from Jason. Botton Line: He's not Kobe. He cannot do it all. He's not AI and can penetrate, score, pass, and shoot. He's not up to the capacity of being a "Jason Kidd", But he is a starting PG for a struggling revamped franchise trying his best. The thing I want to point out though is that, I think Jason sometimes gets mixed signals from the coachs. He just has to better prepare his mind to incorporate and interupt what the coach has in store him to do day in and game out.
It's not easy either having over 85% of your fans, regarding Jason Williams', leave his side when he got traded. I still happen to support him in Tennessee. Most of the people talking bad about the guy are the ones who were amazed and left breathless 3 times a week while he was with Sacramento. Buying his jerseys, having fun talk about him. But life's a b****, you gotta live and learn and its hard trusting people after 85% of the fans who once were yelling in orgasmic fashion (im not one of them) after mesmerizing 90 ft. passes to havingthem talk behind your back and talk some major *&^%.
Three breathless passes a week just cannot get you beyond the three brainless passes a night. RocketRiver
Live and learn...hmmmm... Wasn't he kicked out of the University of Florida for using drugs? Still he didn't learn his lesson. The Kings paid him millions of dollars to play basketball for them. He gets suspended by the NBA for "failing to comply with his drug treatment plan." He may be living, but he sure ain't learning.
JWill is definitely not as talented as AI. That shouldnt even be a comparison. He really isnt that talented. JWill's jump shot is way too inconsistent. His defense is average. He cant rebound, even for a guard. I dont see where the potential is. All he has going for him is a little flash. Dont mistake that with potential. West will only help him run a better offense. And with this, only his TO will decrease. He wont score more, rebound more, or prevent opponents from scoring less.
First of all, while we're on the subject of defense, it isn't average, it's below average. However, I believe most of defense is desire and effort, at least far more than offense. AI is definetley far ahead of Williams on the defensive end. But JWill is very talented. I live in Sacramento, and though I was one of the few who tended to hate him (I liked Tony Delk far better), it wasn't hard to see that he was a superstar waiting to happen. It wasn't so much his jumpshot that was spectacular. As you said, he was very inconsistent with it, although he could have higher percentages with better shot selection. The thing that's amazing about him is his ballhandling and his drive. I maintain that no one in the NBA can stay in front of him when he decides to go to the hoop. In that way, he is very much like Iverson. In fact, I think Williams is better ahead of Iverson in terms of pure driving ability. However, Iverson is by far the better finisher. I still believe that if Iverson is more talented, it isn't by much. Most of the things Williams isn't doing well now can be fairly easily worked on, if he puts forth the effort.
jwill's defense may be "below average", but that's only cus he tries to play "playground d"... what he needs to realize is that there simply aren't many steals off the dribble in the nba. that said, he "can" play playground d, he has the defensive skills... when ppl drive, slap the ball and get it from behind them... shows quick hands / intuition / &c, things that simply cannot be taught... teach him DEFENSIVE FUNDAMENTALS ( not his style though ), such as positioning / when to reach / &c, and he would be a legend defensively... he's can play the passing lanes like iverson, he's long for a point guard, quick... but i mean i don't think he gives a **** that ppl think his defensive skills are below average... he's got the skills, top ten pick even w/ all the negativity, i'm glad he does what he wants... other ppl can "do all the right things", but they'll never have what he has... the skill / potential. he could be all old-skool like jason kidd, get so caught up trying to fulfill you guys' ( fans ) expectations / change who he is, but i'm glad he in effect gives you the bird.
Gosh a PG who has a ton of talent, doesn't play D, and turns the ball over too much and hasn't improved much in his TO's or D after a few years in the league. Sounds like not only J-W but also another player from H-town who is criticized by some and loved by others.
jams3y, I like Jason for the same reason you do. He doesn't care what people think. Sad thing about that is that he may be left unemployeed after his contract is up, with 30 mill to spare for the rest of his life/ Maybe thats all he wants/cares about. That'll be sad to see that "potential" leave us fans from watching all his "special moves" and thinking to ourself, "Only if he took 20 minutes a day to do the little things."thats not jwill though.
I really don't see the Iverson comparison. I'm not saying he doesn't have the potentail to be the same level of a star as Iverson, but they are very different players, IMO. If he were to realize his potential, I suspect Williams would be much more of an Isiah Thomas type of player. His greatest assets are his handle, passing, and vision, coupled with pretty good range, albeit erratic. His mid-range game is decent but not great, and that is Iverson's greatest weapon, aside from pure quickness. To me their size and speed are somewhat similar, but Williams upside is as a pure PG, something Iverson will never be, while Iverson can carry a team with his scoring in a way Williams will never be able to. As weird as it sounds at this point, JW's upside is much greater as a team player than Iverson's, if he ever gets his head on straight.
Jayson williams will always be remember by the nba as a showman. the reason he has so many fans in the past is because of this.S0 i dont think he will stop being a hard head until he realize that he need to be mature to become a great point guard but untill then he will be the uncontrollable williams.
Yeah and until you get his name correct, people will confuse him with that sorry ass JAYSON WILLIAMS (Former NY NET/murderer). Maybe your confused.
