You do not understand the value of Chuck Hayes. Hayes is a +/- player. He gets both ends. He makes the right play on offense. No, he's not a scorer. But he does create. He's got a great handle for a big man and he makes the right play. When he is in the high post, if the defense sags off, he looks for the pass, backs it down, creates space, pressures the defense, looks for the little dipsy doodle or he creates space on the perimeter. He makes the right basketball plays. They are not necessarily scoring plays for him. But he makes the right play. If he faces up at the top and his big man defender is in his jock, he dribbles around the guy and causes the defense to have to react to him going to the hole. He makes the right dam play every time. He doesn't piss around with the basketball. He moves it, creates space. The guy just makes durn plays, offensively and defensively. You manufacture points just like we did tonight. You get the boards and run out and force the opponent into an uptempo game. Hayes has the ability to board, turn and dribble up the court faster than most big man can run without the bball up the court. The biggest problem we are going to face is when we are playing a skilled halfcourt team with length...........the Lakers. We aren't going to be able to play halfcourt ball with them in all likelihood. The only we can compete is with speed and ball movement. Board, run down, and immediately going into the cuts and penetration and look for the shooters. In that style, Ariza is going to be more beneficial to us than Artest. And if we get locked down with them in halfcourt, we are going to have to have Hayes' disruptive presence defensively. David Andersen? Bang bang with the jumper. But do you expect him to be able to match up against any of Gasol, Bynum, or Odom? Scola and Landry? They will get butchered against the Lakers and San Antonio's bigs. We have to have Hayes. We may be able to get away with running Scola/Landry/Andersen against 75% of the league for occasional minutes to create the offensive mismatches but when we get to the top teams, we're going to have to have Hayes in there for substantial minutes to disrupt their interior offense. By the way, we finally found our backup center tonight. Pops Mensa-Bonsu is the man to backup Hayes. I wouldn't doubt if Dorsey was traded for a future 2nd rounder by morning..........or outright released.
If you get locked down in a halfcourt game Jopa, how are the rockets going to score with Chucky on the court? Im a bigger fan of Chucks than you are, but I also know what he is and he's a defensive specialist. I don't agree with you about Chuck making durn offensive plays. Give the team 8 to 10 games in the season and oppossing scouts will pick their halfcourt offensive apart. Without a star player the rockets are going to have a tough time scoring in halfcourt sets and that ain't rocket science. Their only shot at scoring is going to be fastbreak opportunities, dumping the ball down low to Scola depending on who's covering him or PNRs with Brooks and Lowry. The team is much much better with Chuck Hayes on the court defensively, but offensively they will struggle no matter how much you try to spin it. Adelman will have to pick his poison.
After last night's game, I have a feeling Morey's putting feelers out there for any team willing to take Dorsey's contract. Unlike with Cook or Barry, a team under the cap (or under the luxury tax with a trade exception and an open roster spot) shouldn't really need much convincing. If the Rockets throw in some cash to cover his salary (allowing the Rockets to save money overall in avoided luxury taxes), it would be like getting a free player. Plus, Dorsey's contract is only partially guaranteed in 2010-11 (perhaps for $0?), making him a nice throw-in to match salaries in a trade with another team trying to pull a salary dump. I just have not been impressed with Dorsey at all. Pops actually hasn't impressed me that much either, but at least he can draw fouls and get to the FT line. Unless Conroy really does something special in the next two weeks, I think Pops gets the last roster spot.
You just need to defend and make the other team score less than you. This is not to say offense is not important but Chuck gives us more on the defensive end than we gave up on the offensive end. But again, it also depend on the match up at PF/C position. If the other team have a good PF/C, then Chuck is really useful. Here is quote from Adelman "The biggest guy was Chuck," Adelman said. "I put Chuck in the game in the third quarter to guard Bosh and he's our best defender, not only guarding Bosh, but suddenly the pick-and-rolls were not going so easily for them. He's such a tough guy for us, when we don't have him in the game, our defense isn't half as good." Bosh had 13 points in 16 minutes when Hayes came in the game. In the nine minutes they shared the floor, Bosh did not score. In Hayes' 10 minutes on the court, the Raptors made 7 of 23 shots (30.4 percent.) The rest of the game, they made 38 of 67 (56.7 percent). That's the value of Chuck.
Scola can post up, Brooks can drive/shoot, other role player like shane, ariza, budinger, anderson can shoot. With Aldeman's offense emphasis on transition offense and ball/player movement, they can score better. That's not to say we can score 120points every night, but they will score enough and prevent enough basket to give them a chance to win. If you can score 95-85 a game and prevent teams to 88-80 then you can win games. Once again the reason Aldeman and Morey like Chuck playing instead of Pop, Dorsey, or Anderson, because they believe Chuck's overall contribution(defense and offense) is higher.
From what I saw last night, Dorsey played really well. Dorsey was starting, and he played against the raptors' starters. I think his teammates like him. Shane spoke for him. And, yesterday I saw Scola talked to him and gave him an instruction during a timeout.
Morey already said that Adelman was going to "mix things up a bit" in order to get a closer look at some guys fighting for the final rosters spots. Hence, Dorsey starting. What do you want? His teammates to openly hate him? Just because he isn't openly hated, doesn't mean he's this locker room glue guy or anything. What is Shane supposed to say? That he sucks? He's being a good teammate to Joey and propping him up. Lord knows Joey needs all the confidence he can get right now. And Scola taking to him and giving him instruction? That's what Luis is SUPPOSED to be doing. Plenty of Rockets players talked to and gave instructions to James White, but HE's not on the roster anymore. NOTHING you said (other than stating your opinion on Joey's performance) lends any credence to Dorsey being a lock for a roster spot by any stretch of the imagination.
Where was Dorsey in the second half after he went to the bench? I didn't see him walking up to teammates during timeouts. Was he hiding in a corner somewhere? Did he go to the locker-room?
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Brooks, Scola, Landry, Lowry, Ariza. perhaps Budinger, , and McGrady when he returns. Ariza is going to have to give us 40% from 3 to go with what we already know for sure, that is Brooks and Scola giving us 40 ppg combined. I am confident Brooks/Scola will give us our base scoring. We will be very well balanced with Lowry, Landry, Battier, Ariza, and Budinger giving us a combined 50 ppg. That is 90 ppg plus whatever Chuck and Andersen give us. I expect us to average somewhere between 98-102 ppg just because of the pace.....without McGrady. We have the exact opposite problem of last year. We are going to be able to score in an uppaced game, something we lacked last year. We are going to struggle in a slower paced game without 111, which has been our strength in past years. Watch the preseason. We are limiting Brooks and Scola's minutes and you can still see the offensive chemistry that Adelman is stoking. Even in halfcourt, we are going to be decently successful offensively with Brooks and Scola on the court. If one or both of the are out, our offense is going to struggle. Hayes can play just fine and not effect our offensive efficiency as long as Brooks and Scola are out there. When they are not out there, we are still going to need his defense to slow the opponent. We need Chuck healthy to be successful this season.
Dorsey looked lost on the basketball court. Chris Bosh just went left and laid the ball in... I was like what??? Non of the athleticism from his Memphis days is present. He looks like he's trying to remember what he has been taught instead of just playing Ball. I don't see him making the squad and going to the D league at best. Pops has his spot sown up...
Sitting in front of my television, watching the game, looking for Dorsey on the bench in the second half when the camera cut there, and not finding him.
The problem is, he did NOT do fine. He did very un-fine. He was abused on defense by Bosh and others in the pick and roll. It was fairly apparent that Adelman's praise of Chuck Hayes was also a subtle indictment of Dorsey's lack of defensive production. Unless Les is desperate to minimize his luxury tax bill, I just don't know how Dorsey has earned a roster spot over Pops. Of course, the luxury tax issue may very well rule the day, considering that Joey and Pops are only fighting for the 5th-6th big man spot.
