Is "Spreading the floor" more important than offensive rebounding?

All comes down to percentages. If you can take a higher percentage shot, then it may offset the decrease in offensive rebounds. Just because you get an offensive rebound, doesn't necessarily equate to extra buckets. The ultimate goal is to score anyways.

 

On this team, no. We shouldn't desire to be a team that's "one and done". We need a few shooters on the outside to spread the floor, and the other three crashing the boards for second-shot chances.

We don't have the pure, knock-down shooters to where we can live on spreading the floor and giving up second-shot opportunities.

 

Well, spreading the floor will really help AB's game, because the paint shouldn't be as clogged as it was last year with Yao. Now, he can just drive and kick out if the help defense swarms him, or he could just take the one-on-one layup against his defender.

Of course, however, we won't get as many offensive rebounds, and our post game will be almost non-existant.

 

"spread the floor" is similar to "run without ball'. I think reggie miller and Peja were best at it. it can break others team defense.

 

but then, that poses another question.

is "offensive rebounding" more important than "preventing points in transition".

I'm sure morey knows the answer.

 

The Spurs would say no. I believe they are usually at or near the bottom in offensive rebounding statistics.

 

In terms of the value of a single player, I'd say rebounding is definitely the hot commodity for the Rockets right now.

In terms of the team as a whole, you need a balance of spreading the floor and offensive rebounding for the team to function optimally. That's why Andersen (floor spreader) and Hayes (rebounder/defender) both have their values, but you can't necessarily short-change them for their lack in the other area.

That's the definition of a role player.

 

if only we could combine andersen's height and skillset, with hayes' defense, and pop's hops.

 

I think his name is Kevin Garnett

 

but then he'll be someone we don't have enough salary room to pay for...

 

true. although he would displace three players...

 

hahaha, thats right. KG = Chuck Mensu-Andersen.

 

as long as we have accurate shooters, then the answer is yes..

 

FYI, during the Rockets championships, they were last in offensive rebounding, first in 3 point shooting attempts. When the Suns made the huge turnaround upon receiving Nash, I believe that was true (or close to it) for them as well.

Spread out offenses can be very effective. Especially in our case, where on balance we don't have big, athletic finishers.

Another thing to consider. For us to win games this year, we're going to have to beat other teams in the transition game (i.e. get more transition scores than they do). That's much harder to do if you have a bunch of players crashing the offensive glass, because it compromises your transition D.

 

^^ agreeing with that... and taking it a step further...

if we are taking the first available shot, it's likely from the outside... leading to longer rebounds anyway.

Carl, Scola, and Chuck all three are good at chasing the ball down so I don't think it's going to hurt us too terribly much. There may be somewhat of a downswing, but nothing catastrophic.

 

Historically, it has been our philosophy, as well. Rudy T's teams were often dead last in offensive rebounds. There were two reasons for that, though. First, was his desire to have our players get back on D and prevent easy runouts. Second was because of our preferred offensive set: essentially a 4 and 1, where Dream was isolated low left block and everyone else was on the perimeter. Even with the one cutter (usually the ballside entry passer), we just weren't in position to grab boards. Factor in that Dream's pet move was a baseline fadeaway or a jump hook, and you'll recognize that even he was in poor position to get an O-board.

JVG was absolutely adament about transition defense and gladly sacrificed offensive rebounds for less opposing fast break points. He abhorred easy buckets that not only gave away points, but created momentum and often got the crowd involved.

 

I don't think one way is always better than the other. It depends on who we are playing and how our shot is falling.

Without Yao we aren't going to be bigger and better rebounders than a lot of teams. When that's the case I would say spreading the floor should be the main priority.

However if there does happen to be a smaller line up on the floor for our opponents than the Rockets, then I believe that if our shot is a little off we could have a lot to gain by crashing the offensive glass and getting some easy put backs.

I would say a smaller poorer rebounding line up for our opponents isn't that likely this year, but should the opportunity arise, in those cases, let's crash the boards.

 

I think it depends on how efficient a team you want to be. As durvasa stated, the ring teams were always near the bottom in offensive rebounds because they had a dominant post player that you had to double everytime or he made u pay. Even when you doubled,dream could still make u pay. Not only that, they still had guys that could slash to the rim, get out in transition so the offense was effective and the appetite for offensive rebounds weren't as needed. This latest version of the rockets don't have that luxury even with yao and tracy healthy.When u don't get easy baskets and everything is predicated on shooting 3's, which produces long rebounds,the offense really goes in peaks and valleys.

Normally, the best offensive rebounding teams are those that center their offense inside the arc like utah and lakers. Their spacing is the motion and when the shot goes up, they have a rebound triangle and still have floor balance. When shaq was in la, they were a good offensive rebounding team and since he's been gone they're still a good offensive rebounding team. Utah,who shoots less three than anyone always have a very good rebounding triangle. The more people u have inside the arc and the more mid range shots u shoot, the more chances u have at offensive rebounds. Its more than one way to skin a cat,its just a choice. Personally,with or without yao, I would like to see more motion and shots inside the arc and that would produce a higher fg% and chances at the offensive rebound. Yao is a pretty good offensive rebounder when he wants to be.

 

Not a lot of offensive rebounds available when the ball goes in the basket.

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DD