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What's C-Bud potential this season?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DcProWLer277, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. pdewalt

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    I'm not sold on that. Shane, to his detriment has reduced his offense by improving his defense for the sake of the team, IMO. Offense is not all about him taking the shot and I think Battier is awesome at what he does off the ball.

    For that same reason above, Chase will have trouble if he is put in at the SG/SF because who is he going to guard in extended minutes? This is where his offense will suffer i.e., fouls, and such. Plus if he starts, he will be gameplanned for which will be a lot different when the games begin to count

    He is not an all around better offensive player than either Ariza or T-Mac. Both are better finishers, have better handles and will gain more attention than Bundinger. Yes, Bundinger has a better shot than most of them, I still will take T-Mac with elevation on his shot.

    Ariza has to be viewed as a major bust in order for him to get traded and I doubt that. You only trade Battier for business purposes. Unless the overall defense improves Battier at the moment is still too valuable to this team.

    With this all said, I do realize that the NBA is also about the youth movement too. So if management feels the need to sacrifice what Battier brings for potential, what I said is down the toilet. :D
     
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  2. Air Langhi

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    I thought chase would be a scrub, but I was wrong. There isn't anything offensively that ariza can do better than chase.
     
  3. durvasa

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    Ariza took a rebound and went coast-to-coast for the finish against Orlando. Don't know if Budinger has that ability.
     
  4. solid

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    You just broke the sarcasm meter!

    A bit too early for HOF talk, but the kid is a steal as a second rounder. Looks like a first rounder to me. He is not Novak part II. I think he is going to be in the rotation and MAYBE even in the starting lineup before the season is over, and that is a lofty prediction. Frankly, given the Rocket's draft history especially before Morey, it is hard to not get excited about this guy.

    In my opinion, I think like Battier he is a real coaches' player. Aldeman loves this guy. He has poise; you either have poise or you don't. He looks like he is aware of everything and everyone on the floor at any given time, and knows what he is doing. How many players have the Rockets had through the years who were just playing their game, who didn't have that kind of court awareness. Swift was the poster child for a talented player who was largely clueless at all times.

    Could he disappear once the season starts? Possible. Could the intensity of the regular season melt his present image? Maybe. My guess, this guy is the real deal, and is going to be real good.
     
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    Really? Chase is at least as fast with the ball as Trevor is. At this point I don't see Chase doing something like that simply because he's doing such a great job getting his points within the offense. Meanwhile, Trevor can't hit the broadside of a barn, so I'm not surprised to see him push the envelope with a coast-to-coast drive.

    I don't think it has anything to do with ability.
     
  6. mFt82

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    Maybe he even has a chance at winning the Nobel Prize this year.
     
  7. pdewalt

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    Not funny at all... :rolleyes:
     
  8. DaDakota

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    He is a better offensive player than one of them you just mentioned....and it is not the injured one with the gimpy knee.

    I liked you better when you were not so cynical and making fun of people cheering for a new player......exaggeration? Sure...so what.....it is fun to speculate about our new toy.

    Don't be a Debbie Downer....don't be THAT GUY.


    DD
     
  9. durvasa

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    I want to hear you say it explicitly:

    Tracy McGrady is a better offensive player than Chase Budinger.

    You can do it.


    :p
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Tracy is the most talented player on the Rockets always has been. His talent is not in question, at least not by me.

    DD
     
  11. pdewalt

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    I don't think that he is a scrub either but I am not willing to place him into comparison with Ariza, Battier and T-Mac with regards to these Rockets. All three have produced on this level and both Battier and T-Mac have cemented, during their play, their significance to this team. Management, no matter how crafty their PR can be, has illustrated as much. Ariza, was critical in the championship ring that the Lakers got last year.

    Bundinger will get his props, I have little doubt. Yet, he will have to earn them during the regular season. Plus, both T-Mac and potentially Ariza have been viewed by this franchise as go-to players. That makes them different from Budinger, when we start hearing those words from management about him then this conversation will have legs to stand on.
     
  12. pdewalt

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    Nice evasiveness!!! :D I'm sure this quote will be included in someone's signature.
     
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    You forgot how good Peja was. He didn't get to be a MVP consideration for just being a great shooter. Peja had few weaknesses on offense (at least in Adelman's offense), and was a decent rebounder. If Chase ever becomes 70% as good as Peja in his prime, it will be a STEAL.
     
  14. pdewalt

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    I assume that you are referring to Battier with that statement. Battier is the lesser offensive player of the three as a scorer but not necessarily on the offensive end, regarding setting picks, spacing, rebounding and setting guys up. I think Battier is strong in that area.

    Overall I stand by what I said, as an overall offensive player Budinger is not as good as them yet. He is not better than either Ariza or T-Mac offensively until he produces this regular season beyond just being a catch and shoot player. When he commands the attention of the opposing team and leads this team via commanding double teams, getting assists/offensive rebounds, scoring then you can make this argument. If you say system guy, to me, that means he can't do it on his own. Budinger is a system guy and not a go-to guy. With that in mind, I value a go-to guy more than a system guy when I weigh offensive value. Until Budinger becomes a go-to guy, I totally disagree.
     
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    From everything I've seen so far, I would already go out on a limb here and qualify this as the steal of the 2009 nba draft. Chase is going to excel in this league and make Morey look like a genius, as if he needed any help with that.

    He's so good, I'm going to change my sig for him :D
     
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    :confused:

    The irony of this statement coming from the guy who proclaimed he was "unimpressed" just minutes after the draft.

    I have liked the pick all along. Can we just lay off the hyperbole? It gets too silly.
     
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    for this season, I think his potential is similar to that of Cuttino Mobley in his first year with the Rox.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Yeah, I was pissed that we had not traded Tmac...more than anything about the draft.....and was not impressed with Ariza......still....not all that impressed with Ariza.

    DD
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Not evasive at all, it is not his talent, it is his mental abilities, and competivness that are in question to me.

    DD
     
  20. RMGEEGEE

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    Hopefully he comes back a changed man.
     

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