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What's C-Bud potential this season?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DcProWLer277, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. W22_STREAK

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    I don’t like how some people are comparing Budinger to Budinger. They’re two very different players. Kapono is “meant to be” (i.e. see Kapono) a spot up shooter that gets the ball when he is in good position for a quick release. Head does not have the lackluster handle that Budinger has, nor does he have the efficient 3pt shot. Head can actually slash to the rim without travelling. He has a much more complete game.

    Some people can be quoted saying that Head can play the one, do you think Budinger could do that if he were more athletic? It takes court vision and ball handling skills, as well as the ability to create. After watching Head try to create last season, I’m glad we have Budinger instead.

    So is Budinger/Taylor better than Head/Wafer? Maybe not right away, but they certainly have the potential to be much better. And with Tracy McGrady beside them instead of the ball-hogging offense-destroying Ron Artest, I don’t think the growing pains on offense and rapid, efficient scoring will be nearly as noticeable as last season.
     
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    oops haha I was meant to say: "I don’t like how some people are comparing Head to Budinger. They’re two very different players. Budinger is “meant to be” (i.e. see Kapono) a spot up shooter that gets the ball when he is in good position for a quick release.
     
  3. W22_STREAK

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    man it'd be great if I had sum cash nd contributing member status so I can edit out those finger-not-syncing-with-brain typo errors... :rolleyes:
     
  4. devilsdandruff

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    if he can score 13-17pts in 17-25mins per
    he would be playing 30+ mins.
     
  5. nickb492

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    Well its not based on skin but he shoots well, not the greatest defense, passes well, and runs up and down the court well. I put him more in the Steve Novak category. Brent Berry didnt do any of this with the Rockets and with the Spurs, really only shot threes. Now maybe in his younger years with Seattle but never saw him during those years . Thus the Novak-Budinger connection. I See him shooting a last second shot to win this year just like the great one. :D :D :D
     
  6. MambaJoe

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    He would be effective but give him a few years under his belt. I believe he will be another Mike Miller, with slashing ability, great shooting and athletic.

    He would be like a Mike Miller but a nicer version of Mike Miller.
     
  7. T-Slack

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    I wonder what happened to his play making skills. Watch his McDonald's high school clip. [​IMG]

    Anyways, even if Chase scores 17 points a game(not saying he's going to) but lets say he did, I don't think that will be enough to win rookie of the year if he all he averages is 2 assist a game and 1 rebound a game. He'll need to work on his overall game.
     
  8. Rocket86

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    Could be but lets see how He does against the regular rotation of teams.
     
  9. W22_STREAK

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    budinger doesnt have anywhere near the ballhandling and rebounding skills mike miller had or has...maybe chase could improve towards that in the future but right now I dont see chase being anything more than a Kapono
     
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    Chase has great ball handling skills, Its the play making he needs to work on.
     
  11. v3.0

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    I'd say he's inbetween Kapono and Miller, has better handles and can put the ball on the floor better then Kapono, but not the guard skills like Miller.
     
  12. davidxhz

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    This guy is going to make the rotation, I am sure. He scores 17 on 7/14 shooting today, another solid performance.
     
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    He can get up pretty high, and finishes much better than Kapono.
    I don't see Kapono being able to finish Alley Oop passes from his team mates.

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    Remind me why this kid fell to the second round again?

    He may not win rookie of the year, but there's something special about Chase. I'm not saying he *will* become an All Star, but I just get that feeling about him.

    As a swing man, his offensive game is complete. No flaws. Rarely do you see a player, let alone a second round pick, with a flawless set of offensive skills. He does everything, and he does everything smooth. It almost seems like he's holding so much back and there's more to his game than he'll let us see. He can shoot from anywhere on the court. He is absolute nails coming off screens. He can put the ball on the floor and dribble penetrate. He can jump out of the gym, but he'll rarely showcase his impressive dunking skills. He actually knows how to make the right passes. He knows how to move without the ball. He plays intelligently. It seems that the only deficiencies he has now are on defense, and he already has the tools he needs to fix those.

    Right now I doubt he's going to be more than a useful bench player/role player for this season. But I think I would be surprised if Chase doesn't make the All Star team at some point in his career.
     
  15. jasonemilio

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    I will say this though: Chase has a tendency to get REAALLLYY hot and then reallllly cold. One minute he'll shoot like a maniac and blow by you on drives but then some games he'll go 7-19 and not be aggressive. That was the only thing keeping him from being a house hold name back in Arizona.
     
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    The one thing I wonder about, regarding his offense, is how he fares when those shots are more contested.

    A few years ago, Steve Novak shots lights out in preseason too. Well, the regular season is different. Players are more aware of who the good shooters are, and more shots are going to be contested. You're going to be pushed more on defense also, which can impact your energy when taking shots.

    When Budinger gets clean, open looks, he shoots great. It's like practice for him. But what happens when he can't get the same separation against superior defenders? He's taken some rushed, contested shots in the preseason, which has resulted in a number of bricks/airballs. I think he needs to add some pump fakes into his repertoire to really excel as an offensive player.
     
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    I think a couple of advantages that Bud has over Novak is his athletism and his ability to create his own shot. Not sure which player has the quickest shot release but that has an effect on players closing out on you. Novak was a one deminsional player...an outside shooter with height an nothing else. Chase appears to have a complete offensive game which will force teams to play him a lot more honest than Novak. We will just have to speculate until the real games begin.
     
  18. Easy

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    From the videos I saw so far, I think Novak has the quicker release. But it doesn't do you much good if your whole body moves slow. A quick release is important if you spot up and catch and shoot the shot created by your teammate. But it is not enough if you are to create or to come off screens.

    I think you are right that Budinger appears to have a more complete offensive game, and he is clearly faster and more athletic.
     
  19. W22_STREAK

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    Novak was and is a PF/SF......and Chase is a SG/SF......so its only normal and appropriate that Chase is more athletic and has better speed...Novak was able to create massive matchup problems whereas Chase wouldn't be able 2
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Chase will eventually allow the Rockets to trade either:

    Shane, Tmac or Ariza.

    He is already better on offense than 2 of the 3 above. We can only have one defensive wing.

    It will be interesting to see if Morey trades Battier, or if the Rockets decide to keep him and trade Trevor instead.

    DD
     

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