I would probly do that, but only think about dealing Cato after Ming has proven himself to be a starter, i.e. around the trading deadline. Doubt the rockets would tho. HEB, you just waive Ward. And shop Harrington for whatever. Or you could just keep Cato and wait for him to take up 10 mill of cap space
You can have Othella, along with Ward, who can be brought out after the season. Lets get Layden and Dawson together and get this mother done!
We don't need Othella or ward... Othella was a fan favorite here but we don't need him now. nor ward... The only tradeable player you have that would work and has some legitimate value is Kurt thomas. What about my trade offer it's still on the board nykinoz.
Yeah i would probably pull the trigger on this - Houston trades: PF Kenny Thomas (14.1 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 1.9 apg in 34.5 minutes) C Kelvin Cato (6.6 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 25.5 minutes) New York trades: C Travis Knight (2.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.2 apg in 8.8 minutes) PF Kurt Thomas (13.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 1.1 apg in 33.8 minutes) If only it was this easy lolz
Othella and Ward for Cato intrigues me. A few questions though: Exactly how much does Othella make? How long is his contract for? What's his shooting range. Can he hit shots from 10-15 feet out? Then again, Kurt Thomas wouldn't be bad either. Throw in a first rounder and I'd probably take this deal.
i nominate old man rock's trade proposal as the fairest, most well thought out trade proposal i think i've ever seen on this board. truly a deal that works for both teams. also, as some of you have pointed out, cato is certainly not worthless, just overpaid. were it not for $$ concerns, i would not trade cato at all right now. Ming is going to be able to play 25 mins a game year 1 b/c of foul trouble. Cato is a much-above-average backup center who is a nice complement style-wise to Ming.
Since we're going to be over the cap for quite a while, once Francis signs his max contract, I propose this deal: Houston sends Cato/Rice/KT to NY. NY sends Houston/Thomas to Houston. NY gets a veteran SF in Rice, that reports say, is healthy again, Cato, & a young up & coming PF in KT. Both Rice & KT's contracts expire in two years, which would give NY some much needed cap relief. Houston gets a solid SG that can play the SG & SF position in Allan Houston & a tough PF in Thomas. We could resign Willis to teach & back up Ming & would end up with a team of: C: Ming/Willis/Collier PF: Taylor/Griffin/Thomas SF: Houston/Nachbar/T-Mo(IL?) SG: Mobley/Houston/Torres or Maddox(IL?) PG: Francis/Moochie/Brown(IL?) If Griffin has bulked up enough, during the off season, then we could play him at center & let Willis walk if he wants to. I know that Houston makes a fortune, but we're not going to be below the cap for many years to come. If you're going over the cap, then why not build your team 2 deep at every position during that time?
Because we'll exceed the luxury tax and won't be able to keep both Griffin and Yao, not to mention Nachbar if we're stuck with Houston's salary. I agree trying to save caproom for free agents isn't realistic, but that doesn't mean we can afford to go that significantly over the cap.
agreed JR. with the exception of TD, shaq, and candy-man in LA how many better centers can you name in the west. enuf said.
why the hell would New York need another PF??? They already have more PF's than the Denver Broncos have RB's
Sorry for not responding. Harrington has 3 years left at about 2.5mil per year. Extremely reasonable contract. He had a player option this summer, but didn't exercise that option, and thus is contracted for another 3 seasons. As you guys have already seen, Harrington has a nice offensive game. He has some nice post moves, but not enough to demand extended playing time or a double team. He has a nice hook. His jumper i am not so sure on. Most of the games i saw this season, he scored on back to the basket plays and putbacks. He seems to have a good understanding on D, and unlike Dirty Kurty, stays out of foul trouble.
I wouldn't mind trading Cato for Othella and Ward's expiring contract at all. The problem as I see it is Othella doesn't really fit within this team's offensive scheme anymore. Granted, neither does Cato really, but at least he's a true center, or you guys wouldn't be interested in him. I think it would be better for the Rocks to wait a year and see how Yao does before trading Cato.
I think you have this wrong. If Harrington did not exercise the option he becomes a FA. If he did take the option for 2002-2003, it is for $2.7m (I would think he could get more as a FA but maybe not). Also, the option gives the Knicks Harrington for 2 additional seasons at $2.9m and $3.2m. IMO, Harrington and KT are somewhat redundant. Othella is a better banger, KT has more range.
Sharing the ball more with Cato has zero to do with his scoring average. He has enough touches for a player of his caliber. Everyone on this site probably agrees that Cato has: -at least 3 dropped or mishandled passes that could be easy lay ins per game. some nights at least 5. -at least 1 blown dunk per game . -at least 1 missed lay up per game. Add those up and there are your 12-15 points that he could average. he gets enough touches to average 12, he just blows them consisently.
