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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by E.J. Tucker, Jun 29, 2002.

  1. E.J. Tucker

    E.J. Tucker Member

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    This Ming needs bulk is getting old quick, lets face it everything is compared to Shaq and the Lakers as they are the 3 time champions. What team played them closer then any team in the last several years. In fact with a different call here and there it could have been a loss for the Lakers.

    Here is their line up and what could become the Rockets line up:

    Biddy[24] 6-1 190~~~~~~~~~~~~Francis[25] 6-3 195

    Christie[32] 6-6 205~~~~~~~~~~~Mobley[27] 6-4 210

    Divac[34] 7-1 260~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ming[22] 7-5 295

    Stojakovic[25] 6-9 230~~~~~~~~~~Nachbar[22] 6-8 220

    Webber[29] 6-10 245~~~~~~~~~~~Griffin[20] 6-10 220

    Now they have been togather long enough to know each other and have more experence then the kids, but in your 30's you stay in shape while at 20-22 you are adding bulk and strengh while you add weight.

    Let the doubters talk, if most GM's had a choice of these two rosters I have to think they would take the Rockets over the team that almost beat out the Lakers. All we need is experence and time togather.

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  2. tbagain

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    Nice post. Without a doubt, since Shaq is in his prime now, no NBA GM in his right mind would take the King's current roster over the Rocket's promising youngsters.

    Rudy T and CD are building something exciting!:) :) :)

    Isn't Nachbar 6'9" though? I know that EG is 6'11".
     
  3. E.J. Tucker

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    I'm sure some of the stats will be a little off, I took most from the rosters from last year and at 20-22 you will have grown and gained some in a year. If you do that in your 30's it is not always a good thing. :)
     
  4. LakerMania

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    That's a pretty nasty 1-5 the Kings have(and they have 3 more ballers on the bench who can bring it). If the GM wants to win in the next couple of years, he takes the Kings.
     
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    What are you guys talking about? The Kings are so much more dominant than us. In 3 years it will be closer, but for now, EVERY GM would take the Kings over the Rockets. Until we can win 60 games a year, the Kings are more dominant than us.

    Also, Ming does have to gain weight: Muscle Weight. At this point many of the centers will push him around. The fact that he is 7'6 makes it easier for him to get pushed around just because his center of gravity is so high. He needs to bulk up, which will naturally come as he gets older. The NBA is much more physical than the CBA and that is why everyone is stressing the fact that Ming needs to get bigger. Until he gets bigger, stronger, and more used to the style of the NBA, he will get banged around.
     
  6. E.J. Tucker

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    I did not say we were more dominant then the Kings, I said the 5 listed players would be better then the 5 listed for the Kings with as much time togather.

    I will give you that Shaq at 350-360 will push Ming around, but to convince me that Divac or any 260 player will do it is going to take some doing. Seldom does a smaller mass move a larger mass.
     
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    Wirhout a doubt, Rockets and Kings in the western conference championship.
     
  8. tbagain

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    B.S. resdawg! Ming is freakin' 300 pounds. Name one center beside Shaq who is going to "push Ming around"? It is not going to happen.

    In my opinion, this Kings team will not beat the Lakers during the next three years, that is why I would take the young Rockets.

    The Lakers have added Rush, Shaq will get healthy, Kobe will be smarter, and they will probably add another veteran power forward. The Lakers, in my opinion, will actually improve next year.
     
  9. E.J. Tucker

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    I agree about the Lakers getting better, but is it for a Kings team they proved they could beat the way they were, or the group of kids over in Texas with that foreign guy at center? :D
     
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    This certainly looks nice lined up like that on paper.

    Also, the Rockets have GRice, MoT and Kenny on the bench. That ain't a bad bench either. But each of these guys may actually be starters. Plus Cato and Mooch, when playing well, has something to contribute.

    Obviously, the big thing SacTown has on us is experience. But we are premature in this speculation since we are essentially unproven with Ming, Boki, MoT and GRice. If all 4 of these guys are playing well, we are in the hunt for WCF!
     
  11. LakerMania

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    Without a doubt eh? :rolleyes:
     
  12. rezdawg

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    Wow!! You are so naive. Weight is not the only component to getting pushed around. Strength is the most important aspect. If you think Shaq is the only person that can push Ming around, then you are dead wrong.

    Just to name a few besides Shaq: Duncan, Robinson, Mourning, Mcdyess, Webber, Fortson, Mutumbo, Ratliff, J. Oneal, Ben Wallace, Davis, and Rasheed Wallace are much stronger than Ming is. Who cares if Ming is 50 lbs heavier, those guys are twice as strong. They have weight trained for years now. Ming doesnt weight train.

    Also, you are taking the young Rockets over the Kings because the Kings will not beat the Lakers during the next 3 years? LOL!! As if the Rockets have a better chance. The Kings should have won that series anyways.
     
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    I think that even making the Western Conference Semifinals would have to be considered a stetch for right now, let alone the conference finals. I don't know about y'all, but I'd be more than happy with bailing out to the Lakeshow in the first round.
     
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    Barkley didn't weight train either, but nobody pushed him around. Like Ming, Barkley carried most of his weight in his legs and rear end. Ming will be just fine, and guys like David Robinson and Antonio McDyess will never push him around.
     
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    The Rockets will be better in a few years. Not next year though. And yes, I would rather take the Kings roster. The Rockets could become a great team in the future though.:eek:
     
  16. E.J. Tucker

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    First you mention center of gravity, well with Ming it is going to be low because of his lower body mass in relation to his upper body mass. You mention he does not do weight training, I though he did for his lower body but had been told that was more important for playing position on the blocks. The ones you mention may be stronger, at least some of them, so are you saying that the upper body - arms and chest are going to determine who gets pushed around instead of the lower body with getting to a point and not being pushed off it? I would think in the WWF it would be the arms and chest, but I think in the NBA lower body is just as important for holding a spot or not being moved off of it.
     
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    Couple of things about Barkley. He weighed a lot. He was short, thus giving him a shorter center of gravity.

    He also weight trained a lot. You dont think teams have workout hours?
     
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    I don't think Ming will be pushed around. Did you notice his legs? Ming is on a substantial base, he will not be easily moved. With those legs and his Shaq-sized butt, he will push some centers into the seats. This guy is no Keon Clark.
     
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    This Rockets team has more potential than the Kings team.
     
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    Was Barkley that serious about weight training? Didn't that Scottie whats-his name who spent a few months with us complain a bit about his (Barkley's) training habits? and his l**d a**? :)

    Without seeing Ming in action it's a bit soon to assume everyone is going to push him around. maybe we will see something to judge by this Summer when he comes to the US.

    Just to clarify: I like Charles. I like Yao. I am not fond of SP
     

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