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Its Time 2 Support T-mac

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mjharleem22, Sep 19, 2009.

  1. RMGEEGEE

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    I don't understand this tanking nonsense... Why the hell would the team wanna lose on purpose?
    We're not the Sacramento Queens. We're not the Thunders/Bobcats of the league... We're not the Memphis Mama bears or Washington Witches.

    The Houston Rockets are all about heart, competitiveness, and hustle. Ask Lowry, Landry, Scola, Battier to lose. Please. Let me know what they say. These guys are going to do everything in their power to make it to the playoffs. Whether we go out in the first round or not, we took that chance... and we gave it our all. That's what their mindset is.
     
  2. wekko368

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    So your allegiance is with McGrady as opposed to the Rockets' organization?

    So even though you want to let his contract expire, you would prefer for him to get his numbers, even at the cost of a high draft pick (statistically speaking) and the development of other players?

    And you think its guaranteed that the Rockets will get Wade, Bosh, or another big free agent?

    And even if we do, wouldn't it be even better if we could compound our good fortune with a high draft pick?

    I guess its a good think we have Ariza locked up for the next few years.

    How does the pick n' roll have anything to do with Scola's post game?
     
  3. wekko368

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    I'm not sure. Ask the Spurs.

    I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't mind having a season to develop their games. Not only would we have a better chance of winning in 2011, but their individual games would improve which would raise their market value.
     
  4. ThaBlackKnight

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    I said I think its in Tmac's best interest to be on a winning team...and I believe taht the ROckets won't win as much with him dominating the ball. We have the players versatile enough to run RA's offense with a star player.


    I wanna watch a winning team play...I don't care if Tmac gets his #'s...I think him leading our team this year is our best chance at success, since Yao is out.

    Wade and Bosh are tired of losing...they won't go to another lottery team...they wanna win now. But who knows if we get them or not...its still better than taking back garbage in a trade, cuz thats what teams will offer us.

    true about Ariza...I don't see him getting iso opportunities without Tmac...Tmac will draw attention away, and get him the confidence he needs in his offensive game. Yao will help him with that next year as well.

    Well, Scola doesn't use his left hand at all...Aaron Brooks doesn't know how to run a pick n' roll....those are wide open shots and layups you get when Tmac runs the pick n' roll.

    I want success for the rockets...I dont' beleive in a losing culture...look how long the Texans were bad, because they became accustomed to losing and their young players grew around that losing atmosphere. It sticks after awhile.

    My honest belief is that next year, Tmac is the one guy who can lead us to success, with the help of role players such as Scola, Brooks, Ariza, Landry, and Battier
     
  5. wekko368

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    Dominating the ball is the only way he knows how to play. He never moved w/o the ball in the past. You expect him to do it now after he's had knee surgery?

    I get it. You want to see McGrady get his numbers. Even if its detrimental to the Rockets.

    We have no chance at a championship this year.

    You keep using the word "success". Please elaborate on your definition of "success" (both regular season and postseason if applicable).

    Even though we'd have a high lottery pick (hopefully), I don't think anyone in their right minds would consider us a "lottery team".

    Man, this was maybe the 1 point I was agreeing with you on. I have no idea what you're talking about.

    Highly doubtful. Ariza will be hoping to develop his offensive game in Houston. That's why he signed here. He's not going to do that with McGrady playing the same role as Kobe did last year.

    I'm well aware that Scola doesn't use his left hand. However, I don't see how running the pick and roll w/ McGrady will improve it (as you said earlier).

    Are you seriously comparing the Rockets to an expansion football team?
     
  6. ThaBlackKnight

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    Stop F'n putting words in my text! I said I don't want Tmac dominating the ball, and with versatile bigs and an athletic 3 and scoring point guard, we can run Adelman's offense better now.

    Tmac did move without the ball at the start of the 2008 season before his injuries and during the win streak til Yao got hurt...Adelman couldn't run his offense with Deke at center.

    I don't like to watch losing teams...teams that aren't in the playoff hunt. I know its unlikely that we won't win the championship, but you don't konw til you try in the playoffs.


    Nobody knows how Yao will come back, so just like Tmac this year...as of now, people consider us a lottery team, until we prove we are not.


    Who knows if Bosh or Wade or any other big free agent will come here...but I'd take my chances on them or 2 good players in free agency over anything another team offers us, because they will have to include a bad contract to make the money work out for Tmac's contract.


    Ariza is unproven...Tmac is proven. The Rockets are paid to win. We are not going to put the ball in ARiza's hands for 20 shots per game, when we are trying to win. He will develop in time, hopefully, but he can take advantage of the attention Tmac may draw if he's healthy.

    Scola is 29 now...if he hasn't learned how to use his left hand by now, he aint ever going to. Might as well let him get as many easy points as possible with the pick n' roll with Tmac and let him post up when Tmac isn't in the game.
     
  7. wekko368

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    There's no point in responding to you if you're going to ignore everything I saw. You notice how I respond to you point by point? How about trying something like that?
     
  8. ThaBlackKnight

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    I separated into small paragraphs...thought you would pick that up...

    THe 1st paragraph, is for your 1st point

    the 2nd paragraph is for your 2nd point...so on and so forth
     
  9. wekko368

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    I understand, but you're not addressing my points. I figured if you broke my responses into smaller segments, you'd be able to organize your thoughts into a relevant response.
     
  10. ThaBlackKnight

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    well, i can see it is kinda hard to follow...i don't think its that crucial

    I can agree to disagree
     
  11. mjharleem22

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    a lot of ppl dont want to pu emphasis on t-macs numbers but that is of importance if you want the rockets to succeed, i think he should avg around 20/5/5 and what is also key is his fg percentage
     
  12. daywalker02

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    I honor your passion how you try to protect a once so gifted talent.
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Either he works for him, or he is one of his kids.

    :D

    DD
     
  14. VBG

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    I think people are putting too much faith in Ariza, who is at best a role player. He will never be able to create like Tracy Mcgrady. Even with the injuries, T-Mac has talent which very few other players have.
     
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    [​IMG]

    That didn't work for some reason...so here.
     
  17. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Why are there no videos/pics of Tmac passing the football?

    DD
     
  19. Rocket4Life11

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    Personally I would rather see a photo of Tracy and his teammates bonding, but of course that will never happen.
     
  20. ThaBlackKnight

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    since the other thread closed before I could finish...here is the last post I wanted to make...



    WHEN DID I EVER SAY THAT!!!???

    I said he wasn't there in the 95 playoffs...which he wasn't, cuz he left, and I didn't see game 1, except for STockton's game winning floater highlight.


    Of course I remember game 7...it started out with a nice pass from Dream to Horry, who dunked it in Ewing's face.

    Olajuwon shut down Ewing...one play where he blocked Ewing's turn around, and then Ewing just dribbled it off his foot right after that. Ewing also tried a reverse, which hit nothing but air on the other side.

    I remember Maxwell hitting a fall away right before the half ended.

    Dream had a nice spin move on the right side of the court on Charles Smith...and barely stayed inbounds to jam it home over the Knicks.

    I remember the inbounds alley hoop from Maxwell to HOrry and Horry yelling in Oakley's face (loved that play :D )

    I remember Oakley throwing the ball to Cassell on an outlet pass and Cassell draining the jumper from the free throw line.

    and of course, i remember Starks going 2/18, including an air ball from the top of the key 3 pointer, when nobody really contested it that hard.

    And I definetily remember Dream making a spin move to the inside and passing it to Maxwell for the 3, which gave us a 7 point lead.

    Try again...
     

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