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[ESPN]T-Mac's back thanks to Chicago gym

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by the_hustler, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. mjharleem22

    mjharleem22 Member

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    oh and refuse to run rick adlemans offense????? thats a joke because if i recall t-mac said he liked the way rick adelmans offensive ran. T-mac never refused to run it, you know who refused to run it? Rick himself, he tried at first but saw it wasnt working for this type of team
     
  2. AKO511

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    LETs GO T-MAC, I hope he gets back to elite form, thanks to Grover, btw, wasn't Grover playing in the NBA before?
     
  3. Jeff Who

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    Who told you that he can't play off the ball or can't play in Rick's offense. I still think Adelman is not the right coach for a team that has McGrady and Yao, but Yao's out now.

    Sure, McGrady like to have the ball in his hands, that's what he was doing in Orlando and JVG asked him to do that in Houston as well.

    But there is a perfect example that he actually CAN play in that offense. 22 game winning streak.
     
  4. Dave_78

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    If you're denying that he came into camp overweight and out of shape last season then you're dumber than I thought. Yeah, I made up the 30lb number. Would you feel better if I said 20lb? The point is that he was overweight to the point where it was obvious to even the casual observer.
     
  5. ThaBlackKnight

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    Those secret persoinal reasons were 9 family members/friends dying in 1 year...I would care less about my job if I lost that many people close to me.

    I just lost a close friend this year about 6 months ago, and I'm still not over that...couldn't imagine losing somebody else. Hope I don't have to for many, many years

    There are more important things than basketball and pleasing fans...at the end of the day, its just a sport, its just a game, its just a mechanism to make $ for Les Alexander and the NBA.

    I think he realizes this too...he knows its not the end of the world if the Rockets don't win a title...it'll be a lil dissapointing, but we'll live.

    Perfect example is what he's doing in Darfur...tell me he's such a horrible person that you make him out to be...your just an obsessed fan who only cares about what goes on in basketball...get a life dude.
     
  6. leebigez

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    Which is what I've said about Yao for yrs. Its about core strength which gives you power and endurance throughout the game.
     
  7. BizzleRocket

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    Good, he'll just fail faster.
     
  8. Dave_78

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    He seemed like he couldn't care less about his job either except for when he showed up at the All Star game and played in the middle of all this death and turmoil in his life.

    Very sorry to hear that. My condolences.

    I never mentioned anything about his charity work or his non-basketball related activities. Stop muddying the issue.

    As a fan, I'm discussing the things he does and does not do on the court and in the gym. I think that is fair game considering he gets paid $23 a year to play a game that the fans fund and support. Meanwhile, you're trying to put words in my mouth and then go on to talk about him personally like you know the guy. It sounds like you need to get a life.
     
  9. TheReason

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    If you're a right-handed 6'8" NBA all-star and can't dunk off your left foot, your body is properly ****ed. I, for one, am excited to see what he does next season with at least a healthier body than he's had the last six according to him.
     
  10. TheReason

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    When he gets the ball, dude creates for everyone around him. Let's not forget who the best passer on the team is...
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You can not blame Wayne Hall when Tmac was the one hiring and paying him.

    Personal responsibility has always been Tmac's biggest fault as a player.

    Kyle Lowry.

    :D

    DD
     
  12. ashiin

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    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
     
  13. thacabbage

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    This doesn't make much sense. Through the hiring and payment, the two entered into a mutual understanding that McGrady's well-being would be in the care of Hall's alleged "expertise." How is McGrady supposed to know any better? He doesn't have any sports training expertise. You could say Tracy's achilles heel in this case is his own ignorance, but that's quite different than a claim that his downfall is primarily due to his own negligence/lack of responsibility.

    If your kids are being taught grammar improperly at school, is it their fault for willingly learning it from an authority figure, or is it the teacher's fault for his incompetence behind the mask of assumed credibility? Obviously the latter. It is also your fault as the guardian for not ensuring that the child is being taught properly.

    Tracy in this case is the child. In a perfect world, he would know the proper training motions. This isn't the perfect world - he has no training experience. He put his trust in Wayne Hall and Wayne Hall helped destroy his body. The Rockets stood by idly letting it happen.

    You have no idea how hard it is right now to resist the temptation to mention the numerous times you screamed that you wished Tracy would have 'let the other players share in the responsibility.'
     
  14. t_mac1

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    the only year he came in out of shape was LAST YEAR (due to the knee). can you point out any other year when he did NOT come in shape?

    again, being in shape is all fine and dandy. wayne did emphasize basic strength conditioning. and like reavy said, his old trainer never emphasize anything else. and that's bad for a guy with so many injuries.
     
  15. t_mac1

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    that's what most do around here when it revolves around mcgrady, and a few other players. they don't believe what they say, they make up what they want to believe.
     
  16. BizzleRocket

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    Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner.

    I guess we should be optimistic since there's nothing else to be optimistic about.
     
  17. larsv8

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    uhhhh? This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

    When I pay a surgeon to remove a tumor and come out with a brand new set honkers, its not malpractice because I paid him to do it?

    When I pay a lawyer to handle my divorce and he gives everything to the misses, its not his fault cause I paid him to do it?

    When I pay an accountant to do my taxes and he cheats the government, its not his fault because I paid him for his services?

    When you are proffessional, you are supposed to know what the f you are doing whether people pay you or not.
     
  18. HowsMyDriving

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    i normally dont get into pissing contests like this, but your response here is pretty pathetic.

    if you cant understand the difference between the examples you gave and the relationship between tracy and his trainer, then you should not be calling anyone's ideas dumb.

    the fact is that if you pay a surgeon to remove a tumor, its because you want the tumor gone. if you pay someone to do your taxes, then its because you want them to. a trainer doesn't do your work for you. you still have to do it.

    on top of that, trainers are easily replaceable. what exactly did wayne do to earn his position as tracy's personal trainer? besides knowing tracy as a kid? nothing. tracy pays him to do whatever tracy wants. and if you are him, you do whatever tracy wants you to do or you go find a job at the ymca.
     
  19. larsv8

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    No, its one and the same.

    Each proffessional is a person who has an area of experteise. Be it tax law, anatomy, or strength training. Each offers there advice as an expert on the subject. When you pay someone to lend you thier experteise you do so with the assumption that the experteise they are bestowing on you, whether it be in the form of surgery, training, or otherwise is fundamentally sound.

    You pay them because they offer you something you either can't do or don't know on your own. It is not your fault if the "expert" advice or service they offer is destructive, if you do not know otherwise. Thats absurd.
     
  20. HowsMyDriving

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    it is nothing alike. you should stop calling things absurd, when you are making very little sense and using irrelevant analogies.
     

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