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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BoyhoodDream, May 19, 2000.

  1. BoyhoodDream

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    I have never seen Kenyon Martin, Stromile Swift, Miles, Miller, and Fizer play. If anybody can, could you please compare a current and Similar NBA player to each of these for example:

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    Stromile Swift = Chris Webber

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    Mike Miller = Young Chris Mullin


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  2. DREAMer

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    I don't watch very much NCAA Bball, but I can tell you that you're way off on both counts.

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    Mike Miller is said to have Tom Guglitta(however he spells his last name) quilities
    Stromile Swift -He is like an All-around player I saw him play a couple times on TV he was very fast for his position i wouldnt know who to compare him with
    Kenyon Martin- We will compare him to a Bench if cant stay Healthy
    Fizer-Tore up Ucla in the Tourney he is pretty big and powerful most Espn experts said he would be the best underclassman in the draft

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  4. The Cat

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    The Stromile Swift to Chris Webber comparison really isn't that bad in my opinion. Both are big, quick power forwards with a lot of athletism. Miller to me with his all-around game reminds me a lot of Toni Kukoc.

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    Miller is probably better compared to a cross between Dirk Nowitzki (only shorter) and Lamar Odom. He has AMAZING skills handling the ball (like a point guard), but he is explosive to the basket.

    Swift is probably more similar to Antonio McDyess although Webber isn't bad either.

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    Fizer = KT

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    Swift is most like McDyess.....that lean 6'9'' PF frame, with shot blocking abilities, though I'd say Swift is a bit more explosive, and has better dunks.

    If you want a young Chris Mullin, the closest is Jason Kapono.

    Miller is a point forward. He's a good, but not lethal shooter (not Glen Rice). He lead the Florida press, so he's got some good D. He's not the fastest player up and down....but he's got good athleticism.

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  8. SwiftRocket

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    Swift reminds me a lot of Kevin Garnett. Both are lean, tall, quick and can throw down some madddddddddddddd dunks!!!!!!!!!!

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    Mike Miller has always reminded me of the young Bob Sura, with a couple of inches and a little self control.

    Anyone who reminds you of a young Chris Mullen beter check into rehab, before their liver falls out. Man, he was pathetic in the NBA until he quit drinking and moved to small forward.

    I don't like Fizer much, but I do think that he is quite a bit quicker and more athletic than KT. I keep coming back to Corliss Williamson, but bigger.

    I don't know about Martin, that's tough. By best aproximation would be Alan Henderson meets Rasheed Walace?

    Swift seems alot like Antonio McDyess but much more fluid and 'slinky' for lack of a better word and his ball handling is better. My money is on him to be the best player in this draft.

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  10. Da Man

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    Swift is a young Shawn Kemp. That is the closest approximation you are going to get for him. Forget McDyess or Webber, it's Kemp.

    Miller isn't even close to a Young Sura. All Bobby did coming out of college was drive to the hole. The both handle the ball well. Sura is a much better athlete. Miller is much bigger. Miller is the much better shooter and defender. Mike is comparable to Detlef Schrempf with a twist of Clifford Robinson.

    With Kenyon, it's kind of tricky. But now that I think about it, he reminds me of a power forward version of Akeem Olajuwon coming out of college. He's got those raw offensive moves that could eventually evolve into a full blown, nuclear arsenal like Olajuwon. And of course that bread and butter defense. Such explosiveness. Wonderful feel for blocking shots.

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    Camer87 Compares to Kevin Garnett and steve francis but t money compares with Barkley!!

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  12. Launch Pad

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    I'm actually from the University of Florida, so I'll comment on Miller.

    Upsides:

    He's got good size and speed and excellent ball-handling. He's a decent rebounder and defender with quick hands (note: Florida used a full-court press, so I'm not sure how he would defend in a half-court set ). He also has a good shooting touch and range on his shot.

    Downsides:

    He can be a bit of a ballhog and sometimes forces up shots which just aren't there. Once or twice, I've seen him try a fancy behind-the-back or between-the-legs dribble, when it wasn't necessary and lose the ball (i.e. unnecessary showboating).

    The best comparison I've heard so far is Toni Kukoc, but with better D (like that's an achievement [​IMG] ). I'm not really high on him. He's a good player, but unless we're getting rid of Walt (who handles the ball just as well, and has a much better shot), I don't see that he fits any of the Rockets' needs (e.g. a starting caliber PF). If he is the best player available at our draft spot (I doubt he will be; I've heard that the Hawks really like him), I'd consider taking him and trading his rights to another team.

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    Well, here's another tidbit on Martin-He has said himself, that he prefers defense over offense. He's got EXTREMELY fast hops, so he can block a lot of shots, and even if he blows a block, and jumps too soon (a la Cato) his leaps are so quick, that he has the ability to reload, and block it the 2nd time around.

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    I went to Cinci myself and had the pleasure of watching Kenyon grow over the years. I'd have to say he reminds me of a shorter Zo.

    Ridiculous, intense defender. Not just shotblocking, although nobody does highlight blocks like him. No one. I saw him swat one so hard, it landed halfway down the other side of the court, and bounced out of bounds. The opposing team had to inbounds under their own basket after that baby. Another time he got ridiculously high on a swat, and Dick Vitale commented he might as well just catch the ball if he's going to do that. Next possession, he did just that. Snatched the damn ball out of the air. He is the essence of an intimidator and a fighter. He would shut down his man early in the game, and swat a couple of guards' shots early on, and the opposition would avoid the interior like it had barbed wire the rest of the game. Very mentally strong, intimidates with muscle and his dominating presence. Incredible heart, passion and desire. Warrior.

    I also believe his offense is similar to Zo's. Decent jumper, better face-up moves than post moves. Has the quickness to just dribble inside and dunk.

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  15. BoyhoodDream

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    Thanks Guys, I got a real good understanding of everyone except Kenyon Martin. It seems as if there really is no one in the NBA that is too similar to Martin. I am really curious to see what kind of player this guy is.



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