Point 1. Very nice job of extrapolating one pressure-filled moment of a shot from an injured player to fit EVERY EUROPEAN PLAYER IN THE WORLD. That's the most ridiculous statement i've ever seen. That is, until i get to your paragraph saying j-will is the second coming of moochie norris. Point 2. Whhhh...huh? If you want to tell me that you think j-will is overrated, and won't amount to a good NBA player, i *guess* i can accept that, even though 99% of the people out there, fans and experts alike feel he is the best suited to step into an NBA uni and contribute. But the next moochie? That dude with the cool hair that dribbles in circles and gets an assist about as often as the US advances in the world cup? Ummm....in our part of the world we watch these things called "videos," or "clips," or "highlights" that clearly illustrate that j-will is the anti-mooch. Mix in a vcr, watch some old duke games, and then come back and tell me jay is the next mooch. Until then, thanks for your expert analysis.
Hmmm. Let's see, Yao is a 77% FT shooter. If he gets the ball at the FT line and is not guarded,that's a 77% FG percantege. I think, I'll take that. Now, if you run a 6-4 guard or even a 6-8 SF at him that's pretty much the same thing as leaving him unchecked, he'll shoot right over them. The only way to go is to run the big guy at him, ... ......but wait, ouch, I forget there are these two small problems, Francis and Mobley that average 20pts per game, do we want to leave the basket unprotected against them? And Ming can pass so most likely he'll find them... Hmmm.... Why did the Rockets have to trade Yao for Odom, again? OK, mayyyybe there is something to it that if a guy has spent 20+ years as a scout, assistantcoach, head coach, and won 2 championships with starters like Vernon Maxwell and Pete Chilcutt, and I am just saying maybe here, he knows a thing or two about basketball. The point about Barkley and McHale is right on. If you can spin around a guy, he may be 8-10 it won't matter you are going to score. I remeber how Dream had hard time against Sabonis, when he would just stand there with raised hands and bite on the fakes and the shakes.
In defense of Moochie, he gets 5 assist a game. That's as a backup by the way. He also has a nice a/to ratio of 2.5 or 2.6.
That is beautiful Jeff. I remember the year we beat Orlando in the Finals. Dream was absolutely incredible. However, one of the reasons for the championship was our aptitude to play team defense.(weakside defense) I remember a quote from Shaq. "It is not just Hakeem, it is guys like Horry that are coming from the weakside." Or something like that. I have visions of Griffin blocking alot of shots from the weakside if anyone is able to pass the ball past Ming into the post.(and vice versa)
What people forget is that when Hakeem first came into the league, he was a rebounder and shot blocker and was not the greatest post-up player. He had a few moves, but his main strength was his unbelievable athleticism. Fast forward to Ming. Rudy is going to use him to his strengths that he has now. Those strengths will be rebounding, shot blocking, and shooting. Ming is still raw as far as a low post game goes. But, just because he needs some time to develop that low post game (just as Hakeem did), doesn't mean we don't put him in the game and use his current abilities to the max. People also forget, Hakeem made a quick impact on the Rockets, but we already had Ralph Sampson, and a very good supporting cast. Hakeem didn't really enter his prime as a player until the early '90's, and didn't win his first ring until '94. Ming is also going to have to develop so anyone looking for him to come in and be the all-around low post threat that we had in Hakeem's prime is going to be disappointed. However, wait about 3 to 4 years and you will start seeing this guy going OFF in the low post. I guarantee you that he will have moves just like Hakeem's. WHY? The same coaches that taught Hakeem the basics of his moves are going to be teaching Yao. And Yao has the talent and fundamentals to learn the moves and perfect them: Jump hook Baseline Fadeaway Opposite-direction spin etc.... All Hakeem patented moves. Ming can also run the floor, and he already can pass the ball infinitely better than Hakeem could when he was drafted.
Will someone without calling me names like troll,please explain to me why when a person(me) doesnt agree with the ming pick you guys go nuts and call the name troll. FOlks,Im being honest,and thats what forums are for ,varying opinions.Yet I see,instead of guys saying anything with substance(you cant because all you have is footage from him playing 5'10 chinese guys)you get mad and tell me to settle down. I am settle down.In fact ,Im the last person to be rattled when mings a bust,because Im already expecting it. china = communism = this board If anybody disagrees like troy or me,you guys get real mad.Come on,you know you do,just look at all the troy bashers.ALl he said was the TRUTH about what steve TOLD HIM.He didnt make any of it up,and neither am I. If you cant handle different opinions ,then go to china,I hear they love a one sided view. And thats FACTS.Ming will fit in well,but he is going to need to add about 30 pounds to his upper body,and for a guy that bench presses 10 pound weights,(on the back cover of the chinese mag)we are in trouble. Im not trying to start trouble.Frankly I thought my post would be ignored since it was light hearted and I wanted to trade the pick. Ming is ok,but no dominateing.He couldnt handle the dream team.(bradley could get a couple of blocks just from being so tall) I was impressed by mings handles,but thats really it.He is very skiny in the upper body.(skinier than prince) Arvedys was huge on top and could handle a "bow" from Shaq.Im scared ming will get hammered and decide to go back to china so he wont get hurt. He will get hurt in the nba,you do know that right?ANd when he does,expect china to get REAL mad.
Shouldgetodom- Aren't you the same shouldgetodom that wanted Ming in another thread a few days ago. Be careful of your answer. The search feature will be back soon.
Connecting the dotts: Rudy T visits China, and Watches Yao practice in NT. Yao has some exchange with him--in English: Yao: Coach, where will I fit in the team when I first arrive there? Rudy:....... ... Yao is drafted as #1 by houston. TNT reporter Dei interviews him(through interpretor). Dei: Where do you think you will contribute to this team? Yao: First, I will rebound, then I wil play defend, try to block some shots. Then I will see how I can contribute offensively. I am going to learn..." ..... Rudy is on a radio program. When he is asked about Yao's game down low... Rudy: Hur...It's going to take time for him to develop, hur... We will utilize more high post game with the addition of our new talent. Yao is really tall... Can you see Coach's plan and thinking here? Isn't it even not obvious to you?
Shouldgetodom Rudy has been right, much more than wrong. I still believe in Rudy and CD. You are contradicting some of the best talent evaulators in the game. Try to pick any other team other than the Rockets, Sacramento or Jerry West(Memphis this year, LA Lakers Prior). You are predicting and more than likely you are wrong. Go pick on the 11th 12th or13th picks, there you will probably be wrong, but you have more of chance of predicting in your favor.
shouldgetodom - no one is ragging on you for having an opinion or disagreeing with the pick, but in this thread you've made some ignorant, borderline r****ded comments. 1. ming doesn't play against 5'10" guys as you've sterotyped the chinese basketball league. please watch the clips that you're talking about 2. all europeans don't equal peja stojacovic in game 7 of the western conference finals. it's always fun when someone has a dissenting opinion but atleast get a clue first.
You forgot that we have some people that don't understand Basketball Terms ( English) . You have to spell it out to them;rolleyes) Everyone need to relax, and not get stressed, we still have till Oct. before trainning camp. Some of you will have a heart attack before then if you don't relax, and let things take it course, then speak about it. But, I know some of you will never be happy with the Roxs, so if you don't like what's cooking in the kitchen, go some where else!!!!!!!!
Didn't Kobe shoot some impressive airballs in his first pressure packed playoff performance? I guess he sucks to, right shouldgetodem? People aren't dogging you because of your opinion about Ming, people are dogging you out because you've made some absolutely rediculous statements. Ming=Collier Nachbar=Langi JWilliams=Moochie CBA filled with 5'8" players Do you really believe these things, or are you joking? I hope you're joking, but I don't think you are. You think you know more about basketball than Ruddy T because he passed on Lewis? Then hell, you know more about basketball than every GM in the league, cause they all passed on him. Why aren't you a GM yet? Hell, why aren't you the commish?
You fellas who think that the Ming/ Nachbar combo isn't a good one , than you must have been smoking some good stuff. Nachbar is going to be a very good player, I have seen him and MIng play live. I think Ming is going to turn out great but i could see Nachbar turn out better. As far as WOods goes, I am thrilled they picked Bastjan over Woods. Can you say head case. Plus Bostjan has a great attitude and loves the fact we drafted him.
Ming does not have to hold his position in the post, he can simply front his man, there won't be a single person who will be able to lob it over him. Ming will be a great, great player. DaDakota
shouldgetodom Here is why you are called a troll. You made this post in the "Doc Rocket cryptic" thread: <i>I never said I agreed w/ tradeing the #1 for Odom.Thats why I have turned on steve.I think we should trade cuttino for odom.And if steves migraines dont get better,Id trade steve for odom + 8th.But ming is better than the whole bunch.</i> If you notice, you said that Ming was better than the whole bunch. Now you are ragging on Ming. So which is it? Prior to the draft you supported the pick. After the draft, you are complaining about a pick you supported. Those are the types of things that (by definition) trolls on message boards do. If you don't want to be considered a troll, post your opinion, but don't make ridiculous comments such as the one about the airball Pedra shot. Christie shot one as well so I guess the Rockets should never draft a black shooter now, right?
I apologize in advance for bringing this one back up, but I couldn't let this guy's comments go uncommented on. Before I start.. one comment to the guy I'm responding to. If you're such a big Odom fan, why don't you go hang out in a Clipper's BBS? Substance? I have yet to see anything of substance from you..Whereas in many other threads , I have read plenty of substance from others. 5'10" huh? and you know this to be a fact?? I recall seeing stats that say different...if you want the proof..go back and look..the search feature is disabled and I aint gonna do it for you.. Good..I'm thrilled that you wont be disappointed if the worst case scenario comes true...I for one don't think he will be a bust . Oh please...you can still say whatever you want...but don't be surprised when the REAL fans just start ignoring everthing you say. Nope...we get mad having to listen to towel boy's constant barrage of crap..If he really has heard anything, he should have just posted it without the holier-than-thou attitude. BTW...how do you know for sure that he was tellin the truth..are you his butt-buddy? I aint even touchin this one....whatever. I won't dispute that he could use some extra upper body muscle..but its not like he has sticks for arms...I saw pictures that W&S posted that clearly show upper body muscle...not as much as his lower..but still..he has more than I (or probably you) have. You're right, for the most part your post was ignored by the guys that could have ripped apart your arguments...I am but a poor apprentice to them. I'm sure he's thrilled that you were impressed by his handles...(you wouldn't be meaning his love handles, would you? ) This statement alone tells me that you haven't read or believed half the stuff posted here over the last month. Yao has a huge amount of desire to be the best he could possibly be in the NBA and for him to give up and run away just from a little pain would not be consistent with everything we have read about his character... Oh please...how ignorant could you be? PLayers get hurt in ALL sports, and if you really believe that they would yank him back and hurt their chances of exploiting a NBA partnership, you are more delusional and have your head up trollbaros' butt than I thought. Sorry for the last comment, but single-tracked close-minded ppl like you get on my nerves.
If you're gonna bash Rudy for passing on Lewis, then you have to give Rudy credit for picking up the Cat and KT as late picks in the draft.
If when Ming fronts the opposing center and they try to pass over him and if Ming touches said pass, will it be called 'goal tending'?
