it may ultimately prove to be a stupid play but his contention would be that, as a free agent, he wasn't truly free. he could take this or that. period. the system undermined his earned ability to maximize his worth. i don't blame him for being upset *at the system*. ironically, if he were to blow he leg apart again and this time, it did indeed end his career, it would prove his point: at a time he should have been cashing in, he was forced to take *only* $9M, which he'd then have to live on for the rest of his life. i know, i know... but he shouldn't have to apologize for preferring $20-25M over $9M - we *all* would. that's the world where he lives and works.
Understood. But how much more money would he have earned than the Texans' original offer? See, I don't see the difference between $9M and $25M, I see the difference between whatever the Texans offered and what he may have gotten elsewhere, and I'm thinking it's not a heck of a lot.
but that's the point - he wasn't given the opportunity to find out. when the texans hold the franchise tag, what incentive do they have to meet dunta halfway? or any of the way? they hold every single card: they set his value *to them* and he has no recourse. the hold-out was all about posturing for next year; do you really want to franchise the guy and have him miss *another* training camp? is that ultimately productive for your team?
So, if I understand your argument correctly, neither party is particularly heinous? Situations like this are just an undesirable byproduct of the current CBA and organizations and players both trying to do what's best for themselves?
I've been out of the country for a couple of weeks, but did Rick Smith actually say this?!? All this time, I've been thinking that they probably told Dunta that they don't want to Franchise him and worked on getting a long-term deal signed. If he said that, and Dunta heard, "we won't Franchise you" then that's on Dunta. However, if Smith said "we are not going to Franchise you" then he painted himself into a corner taking away any incentive for Dunta to sign what the Texans offered knowing that he could still have the market set his salary rather than the Texans doing it for him.
Hopefully he has a great season. If we can't work out a deal after the season, I would franchise him again. You can't let him walk for free. Try and trade him for some picks at that point.
I think that's the basic premise, and it makes perfect sense to me. I never really held too much against Dunta for doing what he was doing on the business side of things. As a Texan fan, it was a hard pill to swallow though.
What are some thoughts on his play? I know he hasnt had training camp, so he may be a little behind, but I was extremely disappointed with his play. He made one nice play at the beginning of the game, but then play no better than a #2 or #3 CB. I just cant see us giving this guy a contract that pays him amongst the best in the game. And the fact that he wrote "Pay me Rick" on his shoes for todays game really shows where is mind is at. Its sad that I want to see him go.
He looked okay but he's not worth top 5 cb and that is obvious. I hope Bob hits him with a rather large fine for the stunt that he pulled during and after the game.
If that is true with what he wrote on his shoes, then I want him gone. He's no Michael Crabtree, but it's not like these guys are getting pocket change. You made your point with the lockout and you came out rusty, people can somewhat forgive that. Shut up, pick up your paycheck and earn your big payday you baby.
Is there a pic of this? b-bye, Dunta. multi-million-dollar titty baby. don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
Ridiculous. I'd rather root for an 0-16 team that has respectable players on it, than cheer for this toolbag. Cut Dunta Robinson now!
Disturbing to say the least. I get the feeling that if things really do go downhill he's going to be the first guy to spout off and start causing chaos in the locker room. It's obvious he's still affected in a big way by this past offseason. Hopefully he was just speaking without thinking with that "this is what we're here for- to get paid" comment.
If this is true [and i am not doubting you] Then for the Texans to go back on their word . . . . well . . that puts me in Dunta's corner Why would you side with or be loyal to . . someone who cannot keep their word! Serious . .. Texans: OOH Dunta. . . you play hard this year and we will pay you well . . . we will do right by you Dunta: You said you wouldn't franchise me too Texans: Well, you know. . . it was . .the off season . .we got a little crazy . . . but really man . .you can trust us this time. Rocket River
two wrongs don't make a right. how you respond to wrongs being committed against you says a lot about your character. and Dunta looks increasingly like a whiny baby.
I agree they shouldn't have made him any promises of no franchise, but your scenario is not what happened. It was: Texans: We want you to stay, here's a contract that would make you one of the highest paid CBs in the league. Dunta: I'll think about it...thinking...thinking...thinking... (free agency begins, Texans realize this guy is trying to bolt) Texans: Sorry, but we aren't going to honor that deal we made because we feel like you aren't giving us a fair shot in negotiations. Dunta: NOOOOOOOOO! Texans: We are still willing to give you an enormous contract that is more than your fair market value despite the fact that you haven't shown you are back to true form. We aren't going to make you play this year for a new contract. We'll pay you now. Dunta: No. Dunta wanted to leave. That's the truth in all this. He wanted to go somewhere else for the big bucks, and I have a feeling his agent had one of those "unofficial" offers from another team and that's why he was so pissed when he got franchised. The Texans realized they weren't being negotiated with in good faith and saw that they were about to lose a player they had invested in for nothing so they took the only smart step for them to take.
